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Sports Illustrated: lydon murtha adamant incognito never bullied martin

They had a very brief interview that someone managed to get with his father at the foot of his door.

It was about a minute long, with him basically not commenting about anything, but the one thing that came across very clearly IMO was that
he was a weasel. He looked very much like the guy who has orchestrated & leaked this whole media scandal.
 
Now you know why he's voted Debby Downer every year...

Im voted Debbie Downer because for one some people on this board are not smart enough to even know what the term means and mainly because I dont always have a popular opinion.
Popular not to be confused with being right.
 
What facts have I steered away from. Player perceptions are not exactly fact thats their view.
I dont have a side in this case if my team was wrong then they were wrong.

How about the FACTS about the trip, or FACTS about Incog coming to Martin's rescue, or the FACTS of the SAME pranks Martin pulled just weeks prior Or FACTS that he laughed the VM with rest of Teammates or FACTS that they were close friends?
 
Im voted Debbie Downer because for one some people on this board are not smart enough to even know what the term means and mainly because I dont always have a popular opinion.
Popular not to be confused with being right.

No, you are perceived as a Debbie Downer (actually similar to Martin) because you are not backing the TEAM and the LOCKER ROOM, coaches, and organization. Except keep it rolling that we're wrong and to blame this that and the other

THAT my friend is why you are perceived the way you are....
 
Im voted Debbie Downer because for one some people on this board are not smart enough to even know what the term means and mainly because I dont always have a popular opinion.
Popular not to be confused with being right.

So now you KNOW for sure and claim to be "right" on this issue of Martin actually being bullied?
 
Im voted Debbie Downer because for one some people on this board are not smart enough to even know what the term means and mainly because I dont always have a popular opinion.
Popular not to be confused with being right.

if your negative about the teams chances of winning. that's a debbie downer. true or not your being negative
 
If not ONE player has come forward in defense of Martin, that is telling. I realize what Dlockz is saying about the victims in these types of situations not being popular. But I still say the reality of the situation is not what was originally concluded a few days ago by the media
 
So now you KNOW for sure and claim to be "right" on this issue of Martin actually being bullied?

I have no clue whether he was or not. I never claimed to be right. We all just have opinions we dont even know the full allegations we just know that Incognito was suspended for conduct detrimental to team and that Martin left the team. I could very well be wrong but at this point there are no right and wrongs on what happened just a bunch of opinions
 
if all this is true, the coaches are bigger snakes than martin.

He never said that the coaches ordered Richie to bully him. In fact, what he said was, "That’s why the coaches told the leaders, bring him out of his shell. Figure him out a little bit."

And if Murtha also says that Richie was the farthest thing from a bully, please tell me how that's an indictment of the coaches creating a bullying situation?

Honest question. This is not a knee jerk reaction to defend the staff.
 
How are you STILL justifying things after reading this as well as listening to what the other players had to say?

Are you apart of Martin's legal council? His dad? Cousin?

Seriously, Do you NOT agree with the players? The same players you love to watch every week and root for? Are they ALL lying and full of ****?

C'mon Man
of course, he agrees with the players. the players no one else is supporting or agreeing with.
 
I have no clue whether he was or not. I never claimed to be right. We all just have opinions we dont even know the full allegations we just know that Incognito was suspended for conduct detrimental to team and that Martin left the team. I could very well be wrong but at this point there are no right and wrongs on what happened just a bunch of opinions

"Im voted Debbie Downer because for one some people on this board are not smart enough to even know what the term means and mainly because I dont always have a popular opinion.
Popular not to be confused with being right."


You CLEARLY stated you were RIGHT
 
The way I see it.....Martin is not to blame, he is a weak minded person and needs help.....Cog's was set up by he FO and coaches by putting him in charge of beating the punk out of Martin....Ireland knew what was happening did nothing and when it hit the fan he suspends Cog's and used him as the scapegoat......the players coming out yesterday defending Cog's show's how much they have each others back.....they knew Cog's was being railroaded by the Dolphins....I honestly believe Martin thinks he was bullied but he was not treated differently by the others.....this mess was handled poorly by the FO, if they did what they should have, Martin would be getting his help and Cog's would be suited up on Monday and we wouldn't be national news......Ireland can not be the GM after this yr......
weak minded? I have an issue with claiming that. nothing wrong with his mind, now if you mean weak willed, that's possible, however I think he knew he couldn't compete at this level, and wasn't comfortable being a gay man in the locker room and started looking for an out. you don't save voice mails for 7 months for no reason.
 
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