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Starting to See the Wisdom of a WR Pick

I think you MUST go BPA in round 1 no matter the position. After that draft ever damn RT and OG in rounds 2 through 7.
 
BlueFin said:
This.....the probable scenario in our draft is the top tier of tackles are gone. We lack playmaking YAC in our receiving corp......Wallace is our real threat and primarily a deep threat.

I envision an offense with a Brandin Cooks where you move him around and tear up the middle of the field...fast, quick and strong...and yeah his 4.3 speed gives you another scary deep threat.

We can get RT's and Guards in rounds 2 & 3.
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I posted here recently that I could live with a cornfed at #19 IF there is not a WR that adds a dimension to our passing game, if the ones on the board are just carbon copies of what we have now. Because I don't know anything about Cooks, I can't say if he does or not but there seems to be a consensus that he is a guy who REVOLUTIONIZES our passing game if he comes here. He didn't really ring the bell in college from what I heard... but if he is THAT good, yes definitely I want a guy like that over a lineman. I see several excellent OL in the top half of the 2nd round. For some reason I smell a WR move in the 1st and a trade-up to get higher in the 2nd to get the OL Hickey wants (maybe xsf or Jones).

Just don't draft any of nick satan's thugs. kouandijo and South Beach is a radioactive combo. If Hickey wants high-character guys, they don't come from tuscaloser.
 
When it comes to WR's, who would you like? I would be happy if we could get either Cooks or Landry.
 
I mean it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to get another playmaker but how do you ignore the huge need for OL? What if there is a run on them in the 2nd and we don't come away with a starting guard or tackle?
 
Travis34 said:
I mean it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to get another playmaker but how do you ignore the huge need for OL? What if there is a run on them in the 2nd and we don't come away with a starting guard or tackle?
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For me, I would be ok with just about any pick @19 (ok, ok, not a kicker) as long as who we picked ended up a pro-bowler. I can see it both ways. I know we need OL help, but we could also use playmakers, too.
 
AJ Duhe said:
Yes, WR is probably the deepest position in this draft, but I'm starting to see how a pick like Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks in the first round could really change our offense. Mike Wallace has deep speed for sure, but he's not the strongest runner in the open field on short routes. We don't currently have a player that creates a matchup problem with the ability to take a shallow route and turn it into a big play.

I really think the talk of Hickey being in love with this tackle or that tackle is just a smokescreen. When he looks at value on the board, there's no way he takes a RT at #19.
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Mike Wallace may not be the strongest runner on shorter routes but according to ESPN's KC Joyner, in 2011 Wallace led the NFL in average yards per target of 10 yards or less.
Dolphins quarterbacks also have noticed on film that Wallace is more than just a vertical "go" route specialist.

"What was impressive to see was what he can do with the ball (on short patterns)," Matt Moore said, via the Miami Herald. "Everyone talks about the deep routes, but Ben Roethlisberger would sometimes get him the ball quickly and just let him go."

The Pittsburgh Steelers frequently used Wallace on quick screens and slants. With one missed tackle, he's a threat to hit paydirt. According to ESPN.com's KC Joyner, Wallace led the NFL two years ago in average yards per target on throws of 10 yards or less.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...allace-not-a-onetrick-pony-for-miami-dolphins
 
I have no problem with a WR in the first round. Gibson's injury is a concern, as is Wallace's big contract if he does not play up to it this year. I have no concerns on Hartline ot Matthews. Getting a potential game changer who can make a play or two a game can be worth an extra win or two for this year, and add a lot in the future. An Ebron could do something similar and maybe more.
 
iwastherein1972 said:
I posted here recently that I could live with a cornfed at #19 IF there is not a WR that adds a dimension to our passing game, if the ones on the board are just carbon copies of what we have now. Because I don't know anything about Cooks, I can't say if he does or not but there seems to be a consensus that he is a guy who REVOLUTIONIZES our passing game if he comes here. He didn't really ring the bell in college from what I heard... but if he is THAT good, yes definitely I want a guy like that over a lineman. I see several excellent OL in the top half of the 2nd round. For some reason I smell a WR move in the 1st and a trade-up to get higher in the 2nd to get the OL Hickey wants (maybe xsf or Jones).

Just don't draft any of nick satan's thugs. kouandijo and South Beach is a radioactive combo. If Hickey wants high-character guys, they don't come from tuscaloser.
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2013 Biletnakof award winner..about 2000 yards of offense and 18 touchdowns in 2013 alone..if that isn't ringing the bell.....
 
I like the way you think, and I have been preaching this same gospel here for some time. However Cooks would not be my pick at WR. We need a big guy who can both get those jump balls in he end zone, and take it to the house with YAC. Here is my wish list.
Watkins, Evans, Moncrief, Benjamin, then someone like Cooks. I wouldn't mind if we could get Ebron, or Seferian-Jenkins in the first either.
 
HoneyB said:
Our priority is the O line so there's no question in my mind that's what he's targeting in round one. But if his guy doesn't fall, and he can get better value in round two, then he will.

I think a lot of O linemen will be off the board, teams simply need them. I just hope there isn't too much of a run, and we can get who we prefer, and still get a playmaker as well.
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I agree that we should go O-line ...unless so many come off the board early that any O-line left is a reach at 19. Should that happen, I'd be very happy if Darqueze Dennard fell into our laps.
 
While our priority is still the O-line, I think we have to add some more offensive weapons if we are going to compete with Denver and New England in the AFC. Look at how many points the Broncos and Pats put up and then check out what the Phins have done since Marino retired. You can win many games with a great offense and average D, but it's hard to win with just an average offense and average defense. I still think you need to be a complete team to win a SB like Seattle did last year. Seattle and San Fran have depth and talent at almost every position and lots of depth....we are a ways off, but this draft can get us in the right direction.
 
SQuinn17 said:
If there is no top tackles available at 19 scoop a WR or TE. Got no problem with that.
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Agreed. I'd hate to see the pats draft ASJ (19 is too early IMO) & listen to the media crow what a genius Bill B is.

Roman529 said:
While our priority is still the O-line, I think we have to add some more offensive weapons if we are going to compete with Denver and New England in the AFC. Look at how many points the Broncos and Pats put up and then check out what the Phins have done since Marino retired. You can win many games with a great offense and average D, but it's hard to win with just an average offense and average defense. I still think you need to be a complete team to win a SB like Seattle did last year. Seattle and San Fran have depth and talent at almost every position and lots of depth....we are a ways off, but this draft can get us in the right direction.
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Seattle & SF both (occasionally Baltimore & NYG) have what it takes to win it all... a competent, efficient offense and a killer D.
 
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