Stugotz on 790: Agree or Disagree

[PHAZINPHINZPHAN]

No brainer of course we have a better team this year. How can we not have a better team? Let's hope we can keep everyone healthy this year

 

[feelthepain]

The probleim is IMO the two most important positions are QB and the secondary. QB for obvious reasons and the secondary because we are in a passing era.

Didn't Baltimore win a SB with Dilfer?? And didn't NY make a SB apperance with Collins?? I'm sure they weren't anybodys top picks in the fantasy draft. QB is overrated, if you can just turn in a good performance from week to week that's all it takes in the NFL. Besides the Colts have Manning and they can't get past the Pats.

 

[Kenny_Stang]

Didn't Baltimore win a SB with Dilfer?? And didn't NY make a SB apperance with Collins?? I'm sure they weren't anybodys top picks in the fantasy draft. QB is overrated, if you can just turn in a good performance from week to week that's all it takes in the NFL. Besides the Colts have Manning and they can't get past the Pats.

The thing is, I think Baltimore and NY are the exceptions to the rule rather than the norm. Sure you can make it to the big dance with a subpar QB, but you better be #1 in every other position to even have a chance.

 

[josephreese]

And looking at the five losses by 2 or more scores, Tenn, Pitt, @NE, @NYJ, Buffalo, we were really dominated in only the @NE and @NYJ losses. The other three losses were each by 10 points, and if we would have had the current leadership in place, those too could have very possibly been wins.

To be fair, if we judge our close losses this way, than we should also judge our close wins under a "could-have-been" light. What if Brady had simply taken that sack late last year?

I don't mean to disparage your optimism that this team has more talent than a 4-win record would indicate. I only mean to point out that the best teams don't have to use "could have", "would have" and "should have" excuses. They just win.

Here's to the Dolphins becoming the best team. :drinkers:

 

[vt_dolfan]

We could be very, very good, and I highly, highly doubt that this year will be a repeat of last year. The chances of that happening are slim to none, IMO. This team is too talented and too well coached now.

I don't think some people realize just how poorly coached this team has been over the past few years.

I personaly think the Dolphins will win 10 games this year.

KB..I am in total agreement with you..and infact as we get closer the the beginning of the season..its my gut feeling that more and more football analysts will start to murmor such things as well..we are starting to see that even now. Personally..Im just stoked that we have the possibility of winning 10-11 games and making the playoffs. I we dont..no big deal. But its not like we are the Browns or Bungals of years past..where there was no optomism for a good season. We have reason to believe..and after last year...thats enough for me!!

 

[Mike13]

I agree with some of his points. On paper it all looks good, I dont see why we cant go 9-7 or 8-8.

 

[feelthepain]

The thing is, I think Baltimore and NY are the exceptions to the rule rather than the norm. Sure you can make it to the big dance with a subpar QB, but you better be #1 in every other position to even have a chance.

Not true, Baltimore had a strong D...that's about it. I think they went on a 7 game stretch where they didn't score a TD on O!! I don't think it's rare at all, every year a team seems to come out of the pack to post a strong season. Then fall back into the pack the next year. QB is important, but only as important as the coach makes them. As long as the coach has a good game plan and the team believes in what the coach is selling they can succeed. The Pats don't have the greatest players at all the key positions but they win because the players buy into the system.

 

[DPlus47]

We have reason to believe..and after last year...thats enough for me!!

that needed to be repeated!

 

[Fin D]

Disagree - Duper, Clayton, Nat Moore

Disagree on the RB's as well Csonka, Kiick, Morris

Yes, but they were never all on the same team, so sure they each may better than their respective counterparts, but still different teams. In fact, I'm going out on a limb and say that (IMO) Duper and Clayton would have been 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart if they were on other teams.

If you want to debate raw talent they wouldn't be able to keep up with Chambers & Boston. You take these two and put them in the old Marino system and...well...dear lord, that would have been amazing!

 

[MrClean]

To be fair, if we judge our close losses this way, than we should also judge our close wins under a "could-have-been" light. What if Brady had simply taken that sack late last year?

I don't mean to disparage your optimism that this team has more talent than a 4-win record would indicate. I only mean to point out that the best teams don't have to use "could have", "would have" and "should have" excuses. They just win.

Here's to the Dolphins becoming the best team. :drinkers:

If Brady took the sack, we would probably have went 3-13. That win was only a play or two from being a loss. So while we were close to 3-13, we weren't that far from 11-5 even with an inferior coaching staff. We can only play the wudda, cudda, shudda scenarios for last year now, b/c we weren't a good team...primarily due to how we were coached. Bringing in Saban and his staff, even IF we fielded the exact same roster as last year, would still be reason for plenty of optimism, imo.

 

[Disgustipate]

We can definately be a surprise team this season if some things go our way.

It's nice to see someone thinking along those lines, even if it is only Stu Gotz, who is not and never will be a real life sports broadcaster.

 

[bigmiamifan]

Disagree on the RB's as well

Csonka, Kiick, Morris

Sorry but we didn't have the WRs and RBs on the same team at the same time. That's the point of this entire thread.

 

[Penthos]

An unknown here is how much of an impact the coaches will have on the position most in question... QB

Something I often wonder is if Tom Brady would be the Tom Brady that he is today if it wasn't for Bellicheck and is crew. Hypothetically speaking, if instead of BB, the Pats had hired Wanny, Brady would likely still be a backup and never have developed into the MVP he is now. The point is that its hard to tell how much a players sucess is talent and how much is coaching. Maybe, just Maybe, with the help of the new staff AJ will develop into a really good QB.

 

[NaboCane]

Having great skill position players helps teams that have good fundamental foundations; we have yet to see what we have in the trenches, and how everyone is going to grasp the new system and execute it on the field.

Look at St. Louis - always the great skill players, but only one year when they caught a tremendous cosmic wave did they win out; the rest of the time they've struggled.

 

[gofins]

Even with the cluster f#ck of last year, what with Ricky leaving, having no experienced offensive coordinator, losing Boston for the year, and our two big run stuffing DTs playing hardly at all, the general disarray of the coaching staff with reports of infighting between various factions on the staff, etc, we lost only 5 games by more than one score. We were not that far from winning in each of the seven other losses. Most would agree we have at least as much talent personnel wise as last year, and our coaching staff is immeasurably better. We could easily make a dramatic turnaround in 2005, in MY opinion

That's exactly what I got from last season.