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Something to consider for everyone, just because you endured something doesn't make it right.

I got beat is not an argument against beating.

Many children are molested. I'm sure there are posters here who were molested as children - statistically, it's pretty much a guarantee. Just because that person turned out alright doesn't make it OK. I'm not going to argue where to draw the line. Not a can of worms I wish to open. I did, though, want to highlight this, because I've seen it from multiple posters. If as an adult, someone took a switch to you, causing bruising and lacerations, assuming that person wasn't wearing black leather and calling you his/her **** toilet, you'd have them arrested.
 
j-off-her-doll said:
Speaking of the trade proposal, Greenway is washed up (or near), and Miller is finally in a role where he can be a positive contributor - as a complimentary back. I expect Miller to have more than one 50+-yard TD's. Once Moreno softens up the D, Miller's speed will actually be put to good use - especially in this scheme.
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Thanks for trying to get this thread back on OP... didnt really work though it was a nice attempt that got caught out of bounds...lol
 
These kids nowadays need some good spankings. Some kids listen with a good stern voice some need a proper Butt whooping to get in line. how is it abuse for disciplining your kid for doing something wrong. My pops used to say. If u can't hear Ull feel. I turned out just fine
 
Since this thread is already off the rails.

As with all forms of abuse, one of the primary reasons an abuser becomes abusive is because he or she was once abused. Adding to that, the stress and helplessness that can overcome a parent can contribute to abusive tendencies. A parent who is not getting enough time for adequate self-care, or has not been taught how to appropriately and consistently discipline a child, is at added risk for developing abusive tendencies. Substance abuse and addictions can be the root cause or simply exacerbate the problem.
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/somatic-psychology/201105/who-are-the-perpetrators-child-abuse

As with almost everything, it's a systematic issue. We don't have villages raising children in America, and we work longer hours than other "civilized" countries. Tie that into our very conservative mindset as a nation (which tells us not to spare the rod), and you have a recipe for prevalent child abuse.
 
WVDolphan said:
Of course he had bruises and lacerations. He got spanked with a switch. Bruises and lacerations heal. I suppose we can all start playing soccer in the USA and avoid bruises and lacerations for good. Ever seen a kid come off the field after a football game? He has bruises and lacerations often times. Should we ban football from all schools? It is so abusive to the children.

I got spanked with a switch MANY times as a child. In fact, I had to pick my own switch often times. If we were in the car on a trip somewhere, it was not uncommon for the car to be stopped along the road where I would have to get out and pick a switch. The end result was bruises and lacerations. There were a couple of times I can remember drops of blood trickling down onto my shoes and if I were barefoot or wearing sandals, I bet some got on the rug of the car. Big deal.

What was always worse than a switch was the old, worn, fly swatters. Those metal ends where the swatter part was attached could do some damage, especially after the swatter part became worn. Bruises and lacerations would result. I lived. I am glad my parents punished me swiftly when I exhibited behaviors that were not ones that would help me become a good man.

Lastly, we hear all of the bitching about fathers not being responsible for their children. Peterson was trying to be a good father and teach his child, but apparently he was doing it wrong? Make up your minds people.

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Ok. To be fair here, I have not seen the pictures or read the full detail. If this was just a harsh spanking, I have no issues with it. If the kid was nearly tortured, then that is different.

I just know I have read a couple of things and somehow a switch has become a "large tree branch", which is BS.
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Hey, next time before you post, you should gather all information. A little more than a harsh spanking, huh? Maybe that's the norm in West Virginia, but in the majority of the country, this type of abuse will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And FTR, I was spanked as a child, but never with a switch (I did not even know what the heck that was until yesterday) or any other type of object. If this is acceptable to you, then where do you draw the line?

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/?adid=hero1

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russianbear said:
let's just discipline our kids with words and hugs and ice cream.
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Why would we do that when we have people on this forum defending a parent who stuffs leaves in his four year old child's mouth, takes him into a special room, and then hits him in the face, genitals, and legs several dozen times with an object sharp enough to leave gashes in the skin?

I'm all for spankings. I think spankings are absolutely necessary, because most children do not have the capacity for reason, and the only way to prevent bad (and potentially harmful) behavior is through punishment. A belt strap across the butt can be a very effective form of punishment, and it certainly isn't child abuse. But what Adrian Peterson did is indefensible.

"I'm afraid Daddy Peterson will punch me in the face again," said the child, who was still covered in bruises and gashes days after the beating. Yeah, okay, that's just a run of the mill spanking, right?
 
Yeah thats not right!
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
"I'm afraid Daddy Peterson will punch me in the face again," said the child, who was still covered in bruises and gashes days after the beating. Yeah, okay, that's just a run of the mill spanking, right?
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Based on the responses Ive read on this board and another one, I think its a lot more run of the mill than I would have ever thought. Its really unsettling.
 
tylerdolphin said:
Based on the responses Ive read on this board and another one, I think its a lot more run of the mill than I would have ever thought. Its really unsettling.
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Not that I would ever lay a hand on someone visibly weaker than me, be it my wife or any of my kids. It could be debatable on a mild physical punishement on seriously deranged behavior from an older kid, but 4 ****ing years old??? WTF???
 
MRojas4 said:
I thank you for your work in the community.

You must see some really messed up stuff, and I 100% agree that child abuse happens more than we want to think about.

But I also do think PC police step out of line at times. (I don't know the AP case details so excluding that portion).
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yeah they do. A kid that loves his/her parents gets torn away from their family an thrown into the endless loop of foster care homes, all because of what? Because their parents decided to spank their child to discipline them? Which is worse? Getting the belt from your parents that are trying to discipline you? Or being tossed from foster home to foster home until your 18 and are allowed to be on your own? I've known plenty of foster kids, not many of them had any sort of self control. Most run the streets and do whatever the **** they feel like doing till they end up in jail or addicted to heroin or meth. I think there is a line that is regularly crossed between child abuse and discipline, people need to learn the difference quickly.
 
gfish24 said:
Again I just don't get when bruising and cutting your kids is ok discipline? A helpless 4 year old. This is worse than Rice hitting his wife... At least she has the ability to get help or leave. What Peterson did is not right and I am amazed how many people are looking at this as discipline. Maybe Ray Rice was just trying to discipline his wife?

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There are pics on line... Kid is bruised and cut
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Maybe if Ray Rice was disipline with a switch as a boy he would not have knocked out his wife! I agree that Petterson went over board a bit however I rather see that, then no disipline at all which lead to adults that expects everything for nothing and then blames society for all their ills.
 
tzjombie said:
Maybe if Ray Rice was disipline with a switch as a boy he would not have knocked out his wife! I agree that Petterson went over board a bit however I rather see that, then no disipline at all which lead to adults that expects everything for nothing and then blames society for all their ills.
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A bit?? The kid is 4 years old, what could he have done so terrible that he ends up being whipped?? Hell they dont even do this to criminals...
 
tzjombie said:
Maybe if Ray Rice was disipline with a switch as a boy he would not have knocked out his wife! I agree that Petterson went over board a bit however I rather see that, then no disipline at all which lead to adults that expects everything for nothing and then blames society for all their ills.
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Please see my post above with the pictures and the link to the story. Some of the comments in this thread are very troubling.
 
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