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Take the 19 Million and run ... straight to camp!

Jimmy James said:
I think you should go into your boss's office and request, no -- demand, a 14% decrease in pay before you say a darned thing about Ronnie Brown.
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I'm not taking sides because I think players deserve their fair share of the huge profits in sports. It's either them or the owners. But on your point, maybe the other poster should demand a 14% decrease from 19 million. I bet he'd do that to keep you happy. It is simply not the same situation. With the average Joe, money is an issue. After so many million, it's really not a big issue in a person's life, because you can get all you ever would want "materialistically" speaking..
 
Beyond the special skillset, people need to realize that there are really only two places the money is going to go: the players or the owners. Why choose between millionaires and billionaires? Let them settle it for themselves.
 
dolphan north said:
I'm not taking sides because I think players deserve their fair share of the huge profits in sports. It's either them or the owners. But on your point, maybe the other poster should demand a 14% decrease from 19 million. I bet he'd do that to keep you happy. It is simply not the same situation. With the average Joe, money is an issue. After so many million, it's really not a big issue in a person's life, because you can get all you ever would want "materialistically" speaking..
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Tell that to the people starving to death every day about those of us who work jobs here in America. To them, we're the guy who could work that minimum wage job for a little less and still live like kings. Similarly, I'm pretty darn sure there is actually a lifestyle difference between a guy making $22 million over 5 years and a guy making $19 million over the same period. It might be along the lines of making do with the Jaguar XKR instead of geting that Maybach, but that's still a difference.
 
TheMageGandalf said:
The owners own their respective teams. They do not work for anyone. Unless your telling us that Wayne H. can be fired.
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"On April 20, 1999, Marge Schott agreed to sell her controlling interest in the Cincinnati Reds for $67 million to a group led by Cincinnati businessman, Carl Lindner. At the time she was facing a third suspension from Major League Baseball and an expiring ownership agreement with her limited partners, who planned to oust her. Schott continued to own a limited share of the team, however."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schott
 
death7star said:
wayne owns 100 percent of the team and stadium.
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Let an owner in Wayne's situation dress up like a Nazi, say that a certain race should be enslaved, join the Klan, or do something as outrageous or more outrageous than Marge did, and see how long the league tolerates that owner.

If the league was so insubstantial and had such little control, do you think the league would be able to scrutinize potential team buyers they way they do?
 
Jimmy James said:
Let an owner in Wayne's situation dress up like a Nazi, say that a certain race should be enslaved, join the Klan, or do something as outrageous or more outrageous than Marge did, and see how long the league tolerates that owner.

If the league was so insubstantial and had such little control, do you think the league would be able to scrutinize potential team buyers they way they do?
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Yup the league does retain control of the teams on some level. All ownership changes have to be approved by the NFL etc.
 
Jimmy James said:
Let an owner in Wayne's situation dress up like a Nazi, say that a certain race should be enslaved, join the Klan, or do something as outrageous or more outrageous than Marge did, and see how long the league tolerates that owner.

If the league was so insubstantial and had such little control, do you think the league would be able to scrutinize potential team buyers they way they do?
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Yes, but only to police themselves so that no one makes the others team suffer Profit loss.

They are together for profit sharing thats the main goal.

Team fold just like any other business does. Our own Miami Seahawks folded backkkk in the day.

Each team has its own majority owner, investors, employee's, just like any other big business.

Only difference is that they (teams) all got together and said lets make rules and policies to police ourselves and make more money because of it.
 
Dolphins standing firm!

A source said the Dolphins are balking at guaranteeing Brown at least $20 million of his salary, which is a sum in the range of what the No. 2 overall pick in the draft might expect.
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If $19 million guaranteed is all he is worth to the Dolphins then so be it. Maybe other front offices will take notice that this organization won't be bullied and will perhaps help put an end to this grotesque over-payment of rookies.

For those who say that the Dolphins knew that the 2nd pick would demand a high price, so what!? The Phins don't HAVE to pay him anymore than they are willing to offer. IMO The Dolphins would be stupid to pay him more than he is worth to the team, not to other teams. And if the MAXIMUM that they decided he is worth to the team is $19 Million guaranteed, then so be it. I'll trust that Saban and the front office know what they are doing, and what is good for the Dolphins organization more so than Ronnie and Mr. French.
 
Jimmy James said:
Miami might not have to pay that, but Ronnie Brown sure as hell doesn't have to report, either.
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Yea, and I get the feeling that they know that and are ok with it.
 
Jimmy James said:
Miami might not have to pay that, but Ronnie Brown sure as hell doesn't have to report, either.
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Who's career and check book is that really hurting though? Longer he holds out, the more it affects him personally.
 
how much did Smith get?
o yeah.
19 mil is an insult to him. he should be holding out.
and i really do mean that.
 
13isgr81 said:
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If $19 million guaranteed is all he is worth to the Dolphins then so be it. Maybe other front offices will take notice that this organization won't be bullied and will perhaps help put an end to this grotesque over-payment of rookies.

For those who say that the Dolphins knew that the 2nd pick would demand a high price, so what!? The Phins don't HAVE to pay him anymore than they are willing to offer. IMO The Dolphins would be stupid to pay him more than he is worth to the team, not to other teams. And if the MAXIMUM that they decided he is worth to the team is $19 Million guaranteed, then so be it. I'll trust that Saban and the front office know what they are doing, and what is good for the Dolphins organization more so than Ronnie and Mr. French.
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Having the #2 overall draft pick is a HUGE advatage. you can get a game changing player, trade down for more players, trade for future draft picks. it gives you so many things that its given to the 2nd worse team in the NFL to allow that team to rebuild and improve the following few years. to simply throw it away because your not willing to pay the going rate for the pick is so asinine that to do so, would make you the laughing stock of the NFL.
 
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