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it was F*CKING IN BOUNDS. Why do the Wallace apologists have to make stuff up?

are you saying the pass was thrown from in bounds or the pass would have landed in bounds? that ball was landing out of bounds.. its catchable..but it wasn't necessary to be placed there when wallace had like 3 steps on revis with day light in front and a whole empty end zone in front. if it was a fade route i would sympathize with you.. But not on a long bomb off a dubble move
 
Seems like some want deflect away from what the common sense answer is: Wouldn't it be more realistic to expect our young, "developing" QB to learn to play to the strengths of the skill players around him? Wouldn't that be easier than asking the flawed Mike Wallace to be something he's not?

I could be crazy. Let's just keep forcing the ball to Wallace in spots he's is terrible with ..... because it's worked up to this point right?

I see. Tannehill has to be perfect because Wallace can't catch even mildly difficult passes. And THAT sounds realistic? It is Tannehill's fault that a pass bounced off Wallace's face because he should know he can't catch it with his hands? WTF......

Can you imagine a team of Wallace's?

Tanny drops back to pass....

First read, WR on the right sideline. "No can't throw to him, he doesn't like the ball coming from the left".

Second read, WR streaking down the hash. "No can't throw it to him. He can only catch when nobody is within 5 yards"

Third read, WR in the left flat. "No can't throw it to him, he can't catch balls coming directly at him"

Fourth read. "F' it just run with the ball...."
 
are you saying the pass was thrown from in bounds or the pass would have landed in bounds? that ball was landing out of bounds.. its catchable..but it wasn't necessary to be placed there when wallace had like 3 steps on revis with day light in front and a whole empty end zone in front. if it was a fade route i would sympathize with you.. But not on a long bomb off a dubble move

It's possible that the ball could've hit some white if it had landed, but the problem is that Wallace didn't have awareness of the sideline and had to catch it with his body, as I mentioned in an earlier post. He caught it off his left hip, while his right hip was out of bounds. If he'd stayed straight and caught it with his hands, it would've been a TD. dubble....
 
are you saying the pass was thrown from in bounds or the pass would have landed in bounds? that ball was landing out of bounds.. its catchable..but it wasn't necessary to be placed there when wallace had like 3 steps on revis with day light in front and a whole empty end zone in front. if it was a fade route i would sympathize with you.. But not on a long bomb off a dubble move

Take a look at the picture. The ball is TWO FEET in bounds at Wallace's face level. If he doesn't lean back to catch it in the chest, it would have knocked his damn head off. Wallace failed to get both feet down for one reason. He refuses to catch the ball with his hands.

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This is where he catches the ball. It is still in bounds. He doesn't need to step out.

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Here is a picture of a CHILD being taught proper technique.

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If he must be a body catcher, at least learn to drag his feet. Instead, he takes this giant step, right out of bounds.

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Ok i get it, everyone is right here that it was wallace's fault on the catch except coach Philbin and the rest of the outside world. It's a biased opinion. Because tbh I'm a dolphins fan and I don't have any particular fan allegiance to wallace or tannehill. Some here are just tannehill fans and side with him no matter the outcome of a play. But when I see something that looks off I'm going to say it. If a see a wr catching a pass that he looks awkward turning for or a pass is just out of reach I'm going to call it what it is. If i see a pass bounce off a wr hands I'm going to call that as it is. I'm not gonna blame tannehill for a dropped pass and I'm not gonna blame wallace for and bad throw.
 
are you saying the pass was thrown from in bounds or the pass would have landed in bounds? that ball was landing out of bounds.. its catchable..but it wasn't necessary to be placed there when wallace had like 3 steps on revis with day light in front and a whole empty end zone in front. if it was a fade route i would sympathize with you.. But not on a long bomb off a dubble move

There's screengrabs in this thread that show otherwise. If the ball was landing out of bounds, why was Wallace's back to the sideline?

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Ok i get it, everyone is right here that it was wallace's fault on the catch except coach Philbin and the rest of the outside world. It's a biased opinion. Because tbh I'm a dolphins fan and I don't have any particular fan allegiance to wallace or tannehill. Some here are just tannehill fans and side with him no matter the outcome of a play. But when I see something that looks off I'm going to say it. If a see a wr catching a pass that he looks awkward turning for or a pass is just out of reach I'm going to call it what it is. If i see a pass bounce off a wr hands I'm going to call that as it is. I'm not gonna blame tannehill for a dropped pass and I'm not gonna blame wallace for and bad throw.

what a copout...just because people disagree with each other, they must JUST be Tannehill fans? We all see things a bit differently...dont get pissed because you cant convince people of YOUR opinion.
 
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Ok i get it, everyone is right here that it was wallace's fault on the catch except coach Philbin and the rest of the outside world. It's a biased opinion. Because tbh I'm a dolphins fan and I don't have any particular fan allegiance to wallace or tannehill. Some here are just tannehill fans and side with him no matter the outcome of a play. But when I see something that looks off I'm going to say it. If a see a wr catching a pass that he looks awkward turning for or a pass is just out of reach I'm going to call it what it is. If i see a pass bounce off a wr hands I'm going to call that as it is. I'm not gonna blame tannehill for a dropped pass and I'm not gonna blame wallace for and bad throw.

Coach Philbin was critical of Wallace, Tannehill, and the pass protection on that play. When he says that the QB needs to make a great throw to help out his receiver, and then says that the ball was six inches off target and that the receiver has to make a play to help his quarterback, and then finally adds that the pass protection has to make it possible for the QB to get set and deliver the ball... that's hardly Joe Philbin agreeing with your position that it was simply a bad throw.
 
Coach Philbin was critical of Wallace, Tannehill, and the pass protection on that play. When he says that the QB needs to make a great throw to help out his receiver, and then says that the ball was six inches off target and that the receiver has to make a play to help his quarterback, and then finally adds that the pass protection has to make it possible for the QB to get set and deliver the ball... that's hardly Joe Philbin agreeing with your position that it was simply a bad throw.

Have you ever heard a coach say that a 40 yard pass was 6 inches off target? One of the weirdest things I have heard.

IMO, that is a slap at Wallace.
 
Have you ever heard a coach say that a 40 yard pass was 6 inches off target? One of the weirdest things I have heard.

IMO, that is a slap at Wallace.

I don't know about that, but here is the audio:

http://wqam.com/podcasts-2/

Joe Rose show from Sept. 9. Skip to 82:15. So there's the head coach on the play.
 
I see. Tannehill has to be perfect because Wallace can't catch even mildly difficult passes. And THAT sounds realistic? It is Tannehill's fault that a pass bounced off Wallace's face because he should know he can't catch it with his hands? WTF......

Can you imagine a team of Wallace's?

Tanny drops back to pass....

First read, WR on the right sideline. "No can't throw to him, he doesn't like the ball coming from the left".

Second read, WR streaking down the hash. "No can't throw it to him. He can only catch when nobody is within 5 yards"

Third read, WR in the left flat. "No can't throw it to him, he can't catch balls coming directly at him"

Fourth read. "F' it just run with the ball...."

No. You said he had to be perfect, I didn't.

I said throw to the spots that are Wallace's strengths.

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If he must be a body catcher, at least learn to drag his feet. Instead, he takes this giant step, right out of bounds.

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He's a body catcher who needs "space", not tip toeing in the back of the endzone. You're asking too much of him. It is what it is, so why even throw those passes to him?
 
Ok i get it, everyone is right here that it was wallace's fault on the catch except coach Philbin and the rest of the outside world. It's a biased opinion. Because tbh I'm not a dolphins fan and I don't have any particular fan allegiance yo wallace or tannehill. Some here are just tannehill fans and side with him no matter the outcome of a play. But when I see something that looks off I'm going to say it. If a see a wr catching a pass that he looks awkward turning for or a pass is just out of reach I'm going to call it what it is. If i see a pass bounce off a wr hands I'm going to call that as it is. I'm not gonna blame tannehill for a dropped pass and I'm not gonna blame wallace for and bad throw.
 
Also helps we threw every pass to Wallace

This was something that I was a little surprised with...

Typically Tannehill does a good job spreading the ball around, but he seemed to look for Wallace all game. Granted it is hard from the TV to tell if that is what New England was giving him, but it seemed....different. I was waiting for Gibby to get involved or mr stick'em, but it never really happen.
 
There's screengrabs in this thread that show otherwise. If the ball was landing out of bounds, why was Wallace's back to the sideline?

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what a copout...just because people disagree with each other, they must JUST be Tannehill fans? We all see things a bit differently...dont get pissed because you cant convince people of YOUR opinion.


I can't even say I'm pissed. I'd like to say I'm a bit more open minded than some when it comes to placing blame on plays. I've given tannehill his praises and I've given wallace his praise. What I do see is people continue to talk about how wallace is such a bad and overpaid wr who doesn't fight for the ball or doesnt have concentration or doesn't catch the ball with his hands. But I don't see much talk about the things that tannehill can do better. And it's only the opinion from posters here. Tannehill will be the first to talk about his short comings. Philbin and Lazor has also shed light on what can make plays better. It's only the one sided tannehill fan on here that feels he's doing everything right and deserves no criticism. The same individuals that think one negative critique on tannehill feels like ten and ten critiques on Wallace feels like one. Then we act like wrs don't drop passes on other teams and qbs on other teams don't have accuracy issues too as well as Brady. It happens but I'm not gonna sit here and act like wallace is always to blame.
 
This was something that I was a little surprised with...

Typically Tannehill does a good job spreading the ball around, but he seemed to look for Wallace all game. Granted it is hard from the TV to tell if that is what New England was giving him, but it seemed....different. I was waiting for Gibby to get involved or mr stick'em, but it never really happen.

Wallace was always open. The run game was strong. We threw to hartline Gibson and clay when we needed to convert 3rd downs. It was great play calling
 
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