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Tannehill combined preseason stats: 86.5 QB Rating, Rest of stats below: Discuss

PBay Fin Fan said:
I was disappointed in RT's performance last night. The interception was horrid, as was the miss to a wide open Wallace.
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The miss to Wallace which I have no excuses for and the interception were horrible, i call it as I see them and I couldn't agree more. The interception was not a rushed pass, he had both feet planted and chucked a ball right into cover 2, really bad mental mistake. It also could have been a blown post timing route.

That being siad, it looked like he was trying force things along at the point of game when he chucked the interception, after sims coughed up a first down on him in dallas territory and the wallace miss, he was frazzled and trying to force things along.

One thing is that KNowSHOW looked great and our run blocking looked much improved...
 
Preseason is not a good judge of anything because teams build through an entire game and get it together.

It still amazes me that people take preseason as something to make a conclusion on. RT made one huge crapthrow into double coverage without looking off. really bad.

However, RT's MO is to never make the same mistake again and learn from it.

Lazor is also working out the bugs with RT. Lazor however, will never sit with a bland offense and will always come up with gameplans and adjust to what the defense is doing. What I saw last night was basic routes of the WR's. Hartline's drop makes RT look bad. Thats not on him. Wallace not running correctly does as well.

Plus the fact that in these games RT has been throwing to many many different recievers. Anyone notice that Gibson wasnt much of the gameplan last night? Same with Matthews. We are saving this stuff for when the sparks fly.
 
Dolphans Unite! said:
I don't think anything has occurred during the preseason that would allow someone to have any more a definitive impression (either positive or negative) of Tannehill or his future than he had previously. He's still largely an "I don't know about him for sure" player.
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There's a good possibility he will be that "I don't know about him for sure" player for quite a few years. He's an inconsistent performer who makes some great plays and then some boneheaded ones. I think boards will argue about him until he is no longer here and probably even after that. Some see the athlete and high first round pick and will defend him to the death. Others see the problems to go along with the potential and see that the highs and lows pretty much put him where he has been. Smack dab in the middle of "I don't know about him for sure" land. Hopefully he gets it sooner, but I'm hunkering down for about another 5 year wait at least, for that potential to be potentially realized.

I may be accused of basing this on one game but I didn't see last night's game, I saw all of the other ones he has played in. I want to see improvement over this season, not regression when teams pick up our offensive tendencies, then I guess we would know more. I may watch the replay of this one but I already know what I'm in for from the QB based on this thread and his results. More of the same inconsistent play. Not the end of the world though. We have some other young players who may develop too and help him out more.
 
finomenal said:
I'm not making excuses for Tannehill. A franchise QB raises the level of play of his offense. All this talk about Lazor and it looks like the same old Dolphins again. The game was boring and put me to sleep.
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really? so you didnt get excited when our run game took off with flying colors?

Seriously, if your bored, you need to turn to baseball. make sense?
 
finfan54 said:
really? so you didnt get excited when our run game took off with flying colors?

Seriously, if your bored, you need to turn to baseball. make sense?
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Our running game took off against a putrid defense. What happened to the passing game? And to think that Tannehill made one bad decision is wrong. He had an int dropped on another poor decision and throw, had a wide open field down the right sideline on 3rd and 1 yet decided to throw a bad pass 25 yards down the sideline. One bad throw is not a very accurate portrayal of his performance.
 
MadDog 88 said:
Our running game took off against a putrid defense. What happened to the passing game? And to think that Tannehill made one bad decision is wrong. He had an int dropped on another poor decision and throw, had a wide open field down the right sideline on 3rd and 1 yet decided to throw a bad pass 25 yards down the sideline. One bad throw is not a very accurate portrayal of his performance.
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You do realize even the best qbs like manning and Brady make poor throws at times
 
Nawledge said:
You do realize even the best qbs like manning and Brady make poor throws at times
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Tom Brady has played badly enough against our own Miami Dolphins to get BENCHED.

But that's not really relevant. What is relevant is that our starting quarterback had a bad outing last night, and I don't care if it was preseason or not. Making several bad decisions with the football in one game is cause for concern. That interception he threw was as bad as anything you'll see from Mark buttfumble.

In fact, I thought the QB was uncharacteristically bad last night. You tell me if that's a good or bad thing for me to feel that way about the QB during the dress rehearsal game in a new offense?
 
I'm not ready to jump out of the window yet, previous posters have said it best.
1. Vanilla offense
2. All personnel hasn't been on field
3. Coaching staff trying things such as player evaluation, sticking with running game to have a back stand out and evaluate OL run blocking

Most telling is his completion percentage and pocket awareness which looks well above average to me. The interception and poor read was I'll advised but I won't kill him for that, it happens to the best of them folks, just ask any Giant fan.
 
Nawledge said:
You do realize even the best qbs like manning and Brady make poor throws at times
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Sure.

But those QB's also don't get stuck in their progressions, or lock onto one receiver with the propensity that Tannehill does either. Also their accuracy and ball location on vertical routes blow him away. And from an intangible (on field leadership) standpoint, they also blow Tannehill away.

Tannehill is Andy Dalton status. Decent, but there's a ceiling to where you can go with him at QB. And that's nowhere.
 
MadDog 88 said:
Our running game took off against a putrid defense. What happened to the passing game? And to think that Tannehill made one bad decision is wrong. He had an int dropped on another poor decision and throw, had a wide open field down the right sideline on 3rd and 1 yet decided to throw a bad pass 25 yards down the sideline. One bad throw is not a very accurate portrayal of his performance.
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to be fair, Moreno took off against the dallas D. Miller didn't look nearly as good. I know he got almost 5ypc, but if you compare Miller to Moreno, it was night and day. and Moreno had 6.5ypc. Tannehill has looked better, but the passing game wasn't all on him. there was plenty of missed opportunities with dropped passes. and funbles that stalled drives. I saw 2 really bad passes from tannehill. the INT and the close INT throw to Sims. The sideline pass to Wallace could have just as easily been Wallace's fault, for not going full speed. I don't care what Tannehill says to the media. Wallace was not going full speed.
 
Ya I think most of us were looking for some TDs from the 1s last night. I certainly was hoping for some, and when they were calling run plays down in the red zone, that showed me the team was looking at what they wanted to, regadless of score. RT could've been better, but he wasn't a complete fail.

Positives
- Overall, made great throws
- Avoided 2 sacks he would've taken last year
- Looked comfortable, decisive, for the most part

Negatives
- Pass to Sims was a bad decision and bad throw
- Pass to Hartline (INT) was a horrible decision, not sure if the throw was bad, I think he and Hartline were running different plays

My concern is the decisions made on those 2 passes, not necessarily the passes or the results themselves, they were both ill advised decisions. Particularly on the INT, he had wide open folks, one in the middle wide open. He's not immune to them, but we definitely want and expect better. Lazor/RT need to get that fixed.

Not his best outing, for sure, but he's showing better than last pre-season.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Tom Brady has played badly enough against our own Miami Dolphins to get BENCHED.

But that's not really relevant. What is relevant is that our starting quarterback had a bad outing last night, and I don't care if it was preseason or not. Making several bad decisions with the football in one game is cause for concern. That interception he threw was as bad as anything you'll see from Mark buttfumble.

In fact, I thought the QB was uncharacteristically bad last night. You tell me if that's a good or bad thing for me to feel that way about the QB during the dress rehearsal game in a new offense?
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I didn't get to watch the game yet, got it recording tonight at midnight

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phins_4_ever said:
Please. Don't put Tannehill in the same sentence with Manning and Brady.
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Tannehill wasn't even in the sentence so............
 
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