Tannehill is much improved in short passing game in 2nd year

[rent this space]

Back to the original premise, Tannehill was much better in the short passing game in his 2nd year.

In passing from 1 to 10 yards:
In 2012, he had 6 TDs, 6 INTs and a rating of 76.7
In 2013, it was 13TDs, 3 INTs and a 96.1

In passing behind the line of scrimmage, he went from 0 TDs and a 79 QBR last year to 3 tds and a 102.1 rating this year

 

[cafinfan408]

This is exactly why stats dont tell the whole story.
running the ball is so underrated on this board.

 

[Shouright]

Once the wildcat was brought in, the running game got a huge shot in the arm, teams were more concerned in stopping the run, and a hugely smart and accurate QB like Penny took advantage of that, but teams were more scared of getting beat by the run, then the pass.

Tannehill did not have the luxury of an o-line that gave him time to be able to check the field, an RB/TE that could pickup the blitzing LB/DB, or a running game, yet offenses were far more worried with the passing game, and yet more times then not, still could not stop it.

Not bad mouthing Pennington, the guy was one of the best at what he did.....but he was severely limited, and if you are comparing a limited but hugely experienced Pennington to a hugely less experienced but far more talented Tannehill.....then you are just not going to ever get it.

As soon as Tannehill's supposedly greater "talent" shows up in something measurable, you can bet I'll be the first one to get it.

 

[Shouright]

This is exactly why stats dont tell the whole story.
running the ball is so underrated on this board.

Game to game this year, the correlations between Tannehill's QB rating and YPA, and running game variables such as number of rushes, yards, and yards per carry, were next to nil.

In other words, Tannehill's performance and that of the running game were independent. He didn't play any better when the running game was better.

 

[tay0365]

As soon as Tannehill's supposedly greater "talent" shows up in something measurable, you can bet I'll be the first one to get it.

Looking forward to it. :up:

 

[Awsi Dooger]

This is one of the great resuscitations. One unanswered post a month ago and now a full fledged scrimmage.

That's the reason I don't throw away my Christmas tree until April at earliest. You never know when the Sprite and water might restore things.

 

[cafinfan408]

game to game this year, the correlations between tannehill's qb rating and ypa, and running game variables such as number of rushes, yards, and yards per carry, were next to nil.

In other words, tannehill's performance and that of the running game were independent. He didn't play any better when the running game was better.

nothing is independent.

 

[hoops]

This is one of the great resuscitations. One unanswered post a month ago and now a full fledged scrimmage.

That's the reason I don't throw away my Christmas tree until April at earliest. You never know when the Sprite and water might restore things.

good one...

 

[Shouright]

nothing is independent.

Well I'm happy to be convinced based on something objective that Tannehill plays better when the team's running game performs better. What is it?

 

[Shouright]

Looking forward to it. :up:

Yeah well, me too. Unfortunately at this point it's an "if" and not a "when." :)

 

[DuderinoN703]

One of the most noticeable area where RT17's game has improved is the short passing game.

Last year on passes thrown behind the LOS or 1-10 yards in the air he had the following numbers per game.

13 of 20 (64%) for 113 yards (5.5 per attempt), .375 TD's, .375 Int's, QBR 77.1

This year he is checking it down more often and having greater success and accuracy.

18 for 25 (72%) for 141 yards (5.8 per attempt), .916 TD's, .250 Int's, QBR 94.4

That is a pretty good improvement.

By contrast his passing on passes thrown between 11 and 20 yards has stayed pretty steady with little improvement.

2012 (passes thrown 11-20 yards)

54 for 108 (50%) for 916 yards (8.5 per attempt) 3 TD's and 5 int's, QBR 69.1

2013 (passes thrown 11-20 yards)

58 for 113 (51.3%) for 1024 yards (9.0 per attempt) 3 TD's and 6 Int's. QBR 69.3

It seems to me watching the games he is better than that on the intermediate passes.
But stats show otherwise.

And finally on the deeps passes thrown 21 yards and over he has regressed.

2012

15 for 45 (33.3%) for 549 yards (12.2 per attempt) 3 TD's and 2 Int's, QBR 84.3

2013

9 for 41 (21.9 %) for 382 yards (9.3 per attempt) 3 TD's and 4 Int's, QBR 50.7

We actually gain as much on the intermediate passes per attempt as we do on long passes.

Check it down more often and make them tackle.

Had the long ball worked Miami might be in the postseason still. Oh well.

 

[Vaark]

Well, at least that's balanced with about 98% of other posts on my part that provide substantive, topic-related information, as opposed to 0%. :)