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Tannehill or Bortles?

Tannehill is a far better thrower, and I have doubts bottles can hit the comeback routes the way tannehill does. Tannehill is one of the best in the league at that, especially with Eli falling off, who was the master at that route.

But bortles makes plays, something tannehill hasn't done consistently yet, amd something he has to do to get in the elite level.

But he was also held back by Sherman who didn't allow him to do those things, philbin and Sherman even said they told him to stay strong in the pocket so he wouldn't get happy feet, (aka rg3) I expect a huge breakout season for tannehill year with this new offense and strong WR core.
 
Tannehill. He has something Bortles does not. 2 years experience in the NFL. That is huge! With Lazor, Albert, and James, I'm ready to go this season with Ryan. Hartline, Gibson, Landry, and ugh..Wallace along with Ryan will all have a great season this year. Really, the only insecurity I have about this season is Philbin.
 
Tannenballs said:
I liked Carr the most in the draft, then Bortles, then Garoppolo. But Carr has really bad pocket presence. He showed that in college and confirmed it so far in the 2 preseason games. He has A+ arm talent, and incredible athleticism. Believe it or not he ran the same exact 40 times as Johnny (8ball, Middle Finger, Clipboard, Football). I just think the pocket presence thing will be what holds him back from being a franchise guy.. but what a great combo of arm strength/ accuracy/ quick release/ athleticism..
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Carr's outside my top 5 QB's from his class. Bad deep ball and bad pocket presence.
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
This is what I was trying to do in the Wallace debate. I like Tannehill, but he has obvious holes in his game. To think other wise, is being shallow.

As for Bortles, I like him, or like what I've seen early. Mobility, accuracy and command are there early. But one poster here I hold in high regard, hoops, says he folds when Bortles gets hit. Its something I will look for the next time I watch Bortles.

As for the topic. I would take Tannehill, now, because he has 2 full seasons under his belt. Has improved, despite limitations, and continues to impress early this preseason. Its his 3rd year, no more excuses. Its his money year. Its time to **** or get off the pot. People seem to always say, it starts with the QB, then for some reason...make every excuse for the qb when some critical assessment is thrown his way. Tannehill needs to take this team and lead them. If he has a good year, with or with out the playoffs, I will be happy. If not, time to look elsewhere. Sadly.
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i'm just gonna clarify i'm not saying he folds but what i'm saying is he instead of staring down the barrel and standing in and delivering when he gets pressure up the middle in his face has a tendency to bail out on the throw and as a result the accuracy is off at least from what i saw in college...a blaine gabbert trait in college which he carried to the pros...not that i'm saying he's gonna be a blaine gabbert like stare down the rush and drop his eye level qb...i don't see that by any means...just watch how he handles clean or delayed blitz pressure he bailed on the throw in college...gave you the eli manning turn away type stuff...and it affected his accuracy

i have never seen tannehill bail out on anything in the pros...he may not have been able to step into some things properly due to tackles being walked back into his lap but never a hint of i know i'm gonna get hit i'm gonna bail on the throw...those things matter to me
 
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Tannenballs said:
I liked Carr the most in the draft, then Bortles, then Garoppolo. But Carr has really bad pocket presence. He showed that in college and confirmed it so far in the 2 preseason games. He has A+ arm talent, and incredible athleticism. Believe it or not he ran the same exact 40 times as Johnny (8ball, Middle Finger, Clipboard, Football). I just think the pocket presence thing will be what holds him back from being a franchise guy.. but what a great combo of arm strength/ accuracy/ quick release/ athleticism..
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I'm confused. :d-day: Does this mean Carr + pocket presence = Marino + Athelticism?
 
Zounds said:
Bortles looked very impressive in his preseason games, and I'm about as critical as they get when talking about rookie QBs. His stats were ok but he made some great throws. He looked like a 5 year vet. Forget what you saw at UCF, he has decent players and coaches around him now.

That being said, I think its unfair to compare him to Tannehill.
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Actually, his coaching staff at UCF is full of guys that have been coaches at the NFL level.

And no talent around him? You'd be surprised how talented the receiver group at UCF is. Some future NFL players in that group. Not to mention, the running back UCF had is also now on the Jaguars with Bortles. Believe me, Bortles didn't do it alone.

Source: I covered the team during Bortles' last season there.
 
We are talking about two of the best young qbs in the league. Both teams should be happy. I'm a Miami fan so I take Tannehill. But I like Bortles too. Jacksonville has done a nice job getting Joeckel last year and Lee and Robinson at wideout to go with Bortles. We need Jax and Houston to do something to check Indy and Andrew Luck. We can't have Indy have SEC level competition in their lousy division. Jax did a great job identifying a top flight qb and snagging him while other teams were asleep at the wheel. Cleveland had extra picks and didn't trade up to snag Bortles. They got played. Instead their brilliant GM Farmer took a sociopathic smurf who can't turn the corner at the NFL level and needs teams of therapists to handle his mental problems.
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
Its his 3rd year, no more excuses. Its his money year. Its time to **** or get off the pot. People seem to always say, it starts with the QB, then for some reason...make every excuse for the qb when some critical assessment is thrown his way. Tannehill needs to take this team and lead them. If he has a good year, with or with out the playoffs, I will be happy. If not, time to look elsewhere. Sadly.
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Why does the discussion of Tannehill so often end up here? The premise that excuses have been made is bullsh1t. Why isn't the OL sucking last year a REASON rather than an EXCUSE? For it to be an excuse, you have to believe one of these things:

A. The OL wasn't as bad as many claim.
B. A crappy OL shouldn't affect the QB's play very much.

So, which do you believe?
 
Digital said:
Tannehill.

He has proven the ability to consistently throw accurately, be precise with timing patterns, stand unflinching in a collapsing pocket, take a hit and keep looking downfield the rest of the game, take a hit and remain durable, take responsibility, accept criticism when it is justified, take criticism when it properly belongs to his teammates, study hard, read defenses, managing blocking assignments, learn from mistakes and improve constantly. That's one hell of a lot of good attributes.

What I still want to see from Tannehill is deep ball savvy, ability to look off defenders, and take charge leadership.

Blake Bortles has looked good against collegiate and looked good in preseason ... but I don't really know most of those things with him yet. Frankly, out of this draft class I'd keep my eye on Derek Carr. That is the kid with the most talent. If he echoes fearless in the face of pressure and keeps working on his footwork, the sky is the limit for Derek Carr.
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Post of the year.
 
First I can understand why some want Bortles as there is a lot to like about the kid and I believe he will have success in the NFL, but I will take Tannehill any day and twice on Sundays.

Tannehill has already shown to be one of the tougher QB's in the NFL...and has had some success after being severely handicapped his first two season with a poor surrounding cast and an OC who lacked any innovations and struggled to make play calls that set up potential game breakers. HE has a skill set I love...athletic, throws extremely well on the run, takes hits and shakes them off, excellent arm strength, acurate and has developed a good rapport with his receivers (with the exception of one).
 
Mike13 said:
I yearn for the Henne vs Tebow vs Mallet vs Ponder vs Sanchez debate.
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And of course we need nyjunc to teach us what we cant see...those damn stats!
 
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