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Tannehill versus Wilson: Did we draft the right quarterback?

Russell Wilson? You should be asking yourself how did the Dolphins pass up Nick Foles. He does currently hold an NFL record for best passer rating in league history.

Personally, I'm a Tannehill supporter 100%, but Foles is having a better season than Wilson and with less weapons.
 
shouright said:
Wilson is asked to carry his offense less than any quarterback in the league, as the Seahawks run the ball a greater percentage of the time (roughly 53%) than any other team.

However, Wilson attempts the fifth-most passes in the league of at least 20 yards in the air, and he completes the greatest percentage of passes in the league (a whopping 60%) of that kind.

Tannehill, by contrast, is asked to pass the ball on a greater percentage of his team's offensive plays, but his downfield throws are less frequent (10% to Wilson's 14.8%), and he completes only 35.6% of them.

Seattle's line surrenders the second-greatest percentage of pressured dropbacks in the league (45.2%), to the Dolphins' 32.9%, which ranks 23rd in the league. Moreover, Tannehill is sacked on a league-leading 26.9% of his pressured dropbacks, whereas Wilson is 17th in the league in that regard, at 17.6%. The Dolphins' line is ranked 17th in the league in pass blocking efficiency by PFF, whereas Seattle's line is ranked 20th.

When you consider within the above context the quarterback related variables that are most strongly correlated with winning -- QB rating, YPA, net YPA, and adjusted net YPA -- and consider that Wilson is head and shoulders above Tannehill with regard to them, I think it's fairly easy to conclude that Wilson is playing the quarterback position in its entirety far better than Tannehill right now.

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No, we just want to attack you, which is a surefire sign you've touched a nerve nobody wants you to. ;)
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I for one will be glad when your "science experiment and false pretenses for hiding it are over. and as far as nerves go, if the seahawks grabbed the next brady or flutie, it's still too early to tell. last year RGIII, Luck, and Wilson were all the rage, how's RGIII doing this year? and Luck wasn't statistically much better than Tannehill.
 
shouright said:
No, we just want to attack you, which is a surefire sign you've touched a nerve nobody wants you to. ;)
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Shouright, since I don't have a thumbs up button to use I'll give you a thumbs up on your post with this post. You brought statistics and intelligent analysis to the table. Thank you for your contribution to the discussion.
 
MarinoEqualsGod said:
Russell Wilson? You should be asking yourself how did the Dolphins pass up Nick Foles. He does currently hold an NFL record for best passer rating in league history.

Personally, I'm a Tannehill supporter 100%, but Foles is having a better season than Wilson and with less weapons.
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you're kidding? foles has plenty of weapons, what he doesn't have is a bonifide number 1 defense and the best home field advantage in the league.
 
z926538 said:
Shouright, since I don't have a thumbs up button to use I'll give you a thumbs up on your post with this post. You brought statistics and intelligent analysis to the table. Thank you for your contribution to the discussion.
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Sure thing. :up:

Sometimes you use threads such as these to determine, in part, whom to put on your ignore list. :)
 
Wildbill3 said:
you're kidding? foles has plenty of weapons, what he doesn't have is a bonifide number 1 defense and the best home field advantage in the league.
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He does have weapons but not as many as Wilson. It would be different if Jeremy Maclin weren't out for the season. As it is, Riley Cooper is his #2 receiver. That's not exactly high octane weaponry. Granted, Cooper is having a good year, but did you ever think it's because of who's throwing him the ball?
 
Wildbill3 said:
you're kidding? foles has plenty of weapons, what he doesn't have is a bonifide number 1 defense and the best home field advantage in the league.
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I didn't want to go down a Nick Foles tangent but if we are going to discuss him I think we have to mention that Foles is playing in a system that is one of the most creative that we have seen in the NFL in quite a while. How would Ryan Tannehill respond if he were playing in the Eagles or Seahawks system? Would he be more or less successful than he is now? Is Ryan Tannehill being held back playing in the Dolphin's system?
 
z926538 said:
I didn't want to go down a Nick Foles tangent but if we are going to discuss him I think we have to mention that Foles is playing in a system that is one of the most creative that we have seen in the NFL in quite a while. How would Ryan Tannehill respond if he were playing in the Eagles or Seahawks system? Would he be more or less successful than he is now? Is Ryan Tannehill being held back playing in the Dolphin's system?
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Haven't you heard their slogan?

Miami Dolphins offense: "Holding quarterbacks back since 1998"
 
MarinoEqualsGod said:
Haven't you heard their slogan?

Miami Dolphins offense: "Holding quarterbacks back since 1998"
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Definite full belly laugh. :)

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studsatele said:
Wilson has an immensely better support group, all the way around. Far better.
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Agreed. But to make the comparison valid how do you think Wilson would do, all other things equal, if he were quarterbacking the current Dolphins squad? Would we be better, the same, or worse than we are with Tannehill?
 
That Seahawks team is great. Their D shut down the Saints offense and everybody for that matter. They have Beast Mode and that Offensive system allows RW to thrive. RW is perfect for Seattle but might not be elsewhere. Tannehill is our guy, Luck is Indy's, RGIII is Washington's, RW is Seattle's. I believe each QB is the right guy for their team.
 
I think we need to look at a comparison of are we surrounding our QB with the correct offensive scheme and supporting cast.
If we drafted Wilson in the 1st round there would of been wide spread panic on these boards.

Can look back to Brady's draft. Hindsight he is the 1st pick in the draft but the day of the draft he was a practice 2nd/3rd string QB. The Patriots did an amazing job to surround him with the supporting cast to grown and succeed. Impossible to tell how he would do on the Chargers or Packers, etc.
 
I've heard that Tannehill is the best quarterback since sliced bread. Washington, Indianapolis made a terrible mistake. And Vaark is awesome.
 
z926538 said:
Definite full belly laugh. :)

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Agreed. But to make the comparison valid how do you think Wilson would do, all other things equal, if he were quarterbacking the current Dolphins squad? Would we be better, the same, or worse than we are with Tannehill?
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i'll answer that question...wilson couldn't run this offense...mike sherman wouldn't be his oc...it's not the same thing at all...miami would run a different system with wilson
 
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