Tannehill vs Luck Updated

[Vaark]

does this make 15 pages of bad photoshops dedicated to me?

It's funny how you don't realize what that # of no thanks actually means.

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I think Ryan can be a good starting QB in this league, he's not one yet but he can be one. To say he has the highest ceiling of the young QBs is pretty silly. I know you are all in and have to back him but he clearly doesn't have the highest ceiling.

Does this make 80thousand FH, Bills Range and of course TGG (and of course with 99% of them being work hours on weekdays)?

 

[Namor]

Bizzaro World?

 

[nyjunc]

i guess you think the colts made andrew luck run something he was unfamiliar with...ummm no...hell he's got a stanford oc or qb coach if i recall correctly...

this is his 1st year w/ Indy, he didn't have him last year.

the only thing that can hold tannehill from achieving elite qb status is pocket presence...if he develops it and learns how to wiggle out of things and move laterally in the pocket like a tom brady learned thru reps to do and drew brees as well the sky is the limit...

there's nothing he's showing to say it won't develop either...that's the only thing...all this not an accurate qb stuff is mularkey...all this doesn't come off his first read stuff more bs...he's learning to manipulate defenders now progressing nicely...got a ways to go but if the pocket work develops

GAME OVER

I like you Hoos but I think you are going overboard. Elite QBs are guys like Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers- the ceiling for Ryan is nowhere near that caliber of player. I think he can be an Eli type as his ceiling but that is far from an elite QB.

 

[mega-fin-love]

It means you're a ****ing terrible poster that most of the board wishes would go back to trolling Buffalo Range and Gang Green?

That's exactly what it means. Worst poster ever. He would leave if people didn't argue with him all day. He needs gasoline to stay lit.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

the only thing that can hold tannehill from achieving elite qb status is pocket presence...if he develops it and learns how to wiggle out of things and move laterally in the pocket like a tom brady learned thru reps to do and drew brees as well the sky is the limit...

there's nothing he's showing to say it won't develop either...that's the only thing...all this not an accurate qb stuff is mularkey...all this doesn't come off his first read stuff more bs...he's learning to manipulate defenders now progressing nicely...got a ways to go but if the pocket work develops

GAME OVER

With the rumor that Mike Shanahan wanted him, I honestly am kind of hoping that we can somehow find a way to come out of this NFL investigation with Shanahan and Kubiak coaching him up and running that offense for him. I think there would be an instant and dramatic increase in offensive output. We just don't really have the guys to run whatever the hell offense Mike Sherman has drawn up.

 

[Vaark]

the only thing that can hold tannehill from achieving elite qb status is pocket presence...if he develops it and learns how to wiggle out of things and move laterally in the pocket like a tom brady learned thru reps to do and drew brees as well the sky is the limit...

there's nothing he's showing to say it won't develop either...that's the only thing...all this not an accurate qb stuff is mularkey...all this doesn't come off his first read stuff more bs...he's learning to manipulate defenders now progressing nicely...got a ways to go but if the pocket work develops


GAME OVER

don't waste your time; he actually gets bonus points at work for drawing people like you into arguments defending Fins players. If he wasn't a paid propagandist, considering that he's not self-employed why would he have so many daily, weekly and yearly posts on enemy forums, especially since none of them are made on weeknights or weekends. :idk: That's why he won't leave a rebuttal, no matter how obvious or definitive unanswered.. it's his job not to. It would actually be better if he was just a homeristic troll instead of unknowingly helping him make his mortgage payments

 

[hoops]

this is his 1st year w/ Indy, he didn't have him last year.



I like you Hoos but I think you are going overboard. Elite QBs are guys like Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers- the ceiling for Ryan is nowhere near that caliber of player. I think he can be an Eli type as his ceiling but that is far from an elite QB.

i don't care if you like me or not...i do my homework i know guys strengths and weaknesses and the crutches some guys have to fall back on or what must happen for them to be successful...

i've called out the weaknesses or crutches of all the flavor of the month qbs well in advance of the crutches becoming obvious...i know geno like mark sanchez blows unless the run game carries him told you as much....the more those guys throw the worse off a team is...not carry you qbs

tannehill has a ways to go but for what i see if the pocket presence and footwork gets cleaned up he's gonna murder people...especially when we go full no huddle which we are real close to

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With the rumor that Mike Shanahan wanted him, I honestly am kind of hoping that we can somehow find a way to come out of this NFL investigation with Shanahan and Kubiak coaching him up and running that offense for him. I think there would be an instant and dramatic increase in offensive output. We just don't really have the guys to run whatever the hell offense Mike Sherman has drawn up.

shanahan would run him to contact and kill him...no thanks on the oompa loompa

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

shanahan would run him to contact and kill him...no thanks on the oompa loompa

I don't think he'd use him the way he's using Robert Griffin. But I think we would see a lot more play action, more bootlegs, and more schemes to get guys open in space to do damage as opposed to Mike Sherman's "Line everyone up in the same spot and force Ryan Tannehill to throw a fastball through a three inch slit" offense.

It's honestly crazy to me how these guys insist on running whatever scheme they've cooked up in their heads regardless of the personnel they are working with. Gary Kubiak's offense would be absolutely brilliant for Tannehill, IMO, and yet he's running it with Matt Schaub, who threw so many pick sixes he's now been benched because he flat out couldn't make a lot of the plays that he was being asked to make.

 

[tay0365]

don't confuse comp % w/ accuracy.

You can say (actually will say) that how do we know where the location of each of those passes were, but the thing is, Ryan did complete a higher percentage, so either his receiver are better then the Luck's helping him with the bad placing of the passes (Even you have admit that's not true), or Ryan actually has been more accurate.

You don't read, do you? I even predicted you would say that, and you did....so predictable.

 

[hoops]

I don't think he'd use him the way he's using Robert Griffin. But I think we would see a lot more play action, more bootlegs, and more schemes to get guys open in space to do damage as opposed to Mike Sherman's "Line everyone up in the same spot and force Ryan Tannehill to throw a fastball through a three inch slit" offense.

It's honestly crazy to me how these guys insist on running whatever scheme they've cooked up in their heads regardless of the personnel they are working with. Gary Kubiak's offense would be absolutely brilliant for Tannehill, IMO, and yet he's running it with Matt Schaub, who threw so many pick sixes he's now been benched because he flat out couldn't make a lot of the plays that he was being asked to make.

kubiaks o would be great with tanny but you couldn't run it with this oline...if tanny got a run game like that to work off ha ha...MURDER

schaubs arm on the hoof and inability to execute on the move throws as a result of being a ehh athlete did him in...tannehill would kill it in that o...but again this oline would never ever work

 

[nyjunc]

i don't care if you like me or not...i do my homework i know guys strengths and weaknesses and the crutches some guys have to fall back on or what must happen for them to be successful...

i've called out the weaknesses or crutches of all the flavor of the month qbs well in advance of the crutches becoming obvious...i know geno like mark sanchez blows unless the run game carries him told you as much....the more those guys throw the worse off a team is...not carry you qbs

tannehill has a ways to go but for what i see if the pocket presence and footwork gets cleaned up he's gonna murder people...especially when we go full no huddle which we are real close to

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shanahan would run him to contact and kill him...no thanks on the oompa loompa

you may want to go back and do more homework on mark. Actually watch the games and see how well we ran b/c we were never a great running team w/ Mark. A game here or there against Buffalo to skew #s but overall we were not a great run team. geno wasn't ready just like Ryan last year. he has less talent than Ryan last year and a more aggressive OC which has led to more TOs(though Rayn had a ton too)

Tannehill has ways to go is the understatement of all time. Again, I am not saying he is bad or will be bad but to throw around the word elite is just silly and you know it.

 

[So Be]

I don't think he'd use him the way he's using Robert Griffin. But I think we would see a lot more play action, more bootlegs, and more schemes to get guys open in space to do damage as opposed to Mike Sherman's "Line everyone up in the same spot and force Ryan Tannehill to throw a fastball through a three inch slit" offense.

It's honestly crazy to me how these guys insist on running whatever scheme they've cooked up in their heads regardless of the personnel they are working with. Gary Kubiak's offense would be absolutely brilliant for Tannehill, IMO, and yet he's running it with Matt Schaub, who threw so many pick sixes he's now been benched because he flat out couldn't make a lot of the plays that he was being asked to make.

RT has used play action only 76 times this year, completing 50 for 792 yds and a rating of 121.3. However, not having a running game really hinders play action. I've seen many a play where the D was not buying it at all.

 

[nyjunc]

You don't read, do you? I even predicted you would say that, and you did....so predictable.

I saw what you wrote, you agreed then gave me comp % as the reason he is more accurate.

 

[hoops]

you may want to go back and do more homework on mark. Actually watch the games and see how well we ran b/c we were never a great running team w/ Mark. A game here or there against Buffalo to skew #s but overall we were not a great run team. geno wasn't ready just like Ryan last year. he has less talent than Ryan last year and a more aggressive OC which has led to more TOs(though Rayn had a ton too)

Tannehill has ways to go is the understatement of all time. Again, I am not saying he is bad or will be bad but to throw around the word elite is just silly and you know it.

i'm done with mark...the league is too...the guy couldn't pick up a obvious from the get go clean edge rusher or slot blitzer to save his life...missed throws all over the place...his accuracy in a west coast o was a joke...must be carried by a running game and strong d that gives him short fields qb...

 

[hoops]

RT has used play action only 76 times this year, completing 50 for 792 yds and a rating of 121.3. However, not having a running game really hinders play action. I've seen many a play where the D was not buying it at all.

now imagine if actually ran the ball well with consistency...