Tannehill vs Luck Updated

[FinaticalFinfan]

What's funny is the Sanchez Vs Henne thread can still be argued.. Henne ends up playing more games in his Nfl career than Sanchez yet neither ever win a Super Bowl.. The Luck vs Tannehill vs Geno argument.. Well I'd imagine that will be a 2 headed race in another season also. But that's ok that nobody believes Nyjunc that Sanchez is a Good Quarterback. I mean heck he beat the charges in that Afc conference game with 93 yards passing. What other QB in the league could accomplish such amazing stats.
as of right now: Sanchez 4 PO wins, Luck/Tannehill ZERO

when you make statements about the SD game like that you show how little you know. I guess you would rather have thrown for 300 yds and lost?

When you make statements like you do, it shows how much you deserve the Finheaven spin award. Nobody was saying that wins aren't important, the discussion was about qb play and how Mr. Buttfumbler really didn't help.....and in that game, his team won in spite of having one of the worst qbs ever to make an AFC Championship.

 

[nyjunc]

The point is even Leinart would of won that game. You are blind and I commend you for having a favorite player. But the playoff wins lay on Rex Ryan's shoulders. Without him And his D schemes Sanchez has a similar career as leinart so far.

But that shows how much you know

That would be 100% false, Rivers had a similar game and LOST at HOME w/ MORE talent.

I don't have favorite players, I'll be 40 in a couple of years and I'm too old for that stuff. I just want guys to help my team win.

you telling me that you guys never ran a west coast offense with mark sanchez???

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that's still pretty good considering we can't run the ball

Nope. Not w/ Brian Schottenheimer and I have no idea what we ran w/ Sparano.

 

[hoops]

If the Dolphins get to the playoffs it will be because of Tannehill and even though no one will consider him an MVP, he should be because without him this team is maybe a 3 - 7 team. HE's done more with no run game and little pass blocking then anyone could have expected. Once the o-line get fixed he's going to be scary....

he's the team mvp in my book...who else would it be??? this d is overrated as hell the oline blows he's getting sacked more than any qb in football yet still we are playing 500 ball and in the hunt for a postseason berth...

yep team mvp is the 2nd year qb...overcoming a lot of things

 

[nyjunc]

When you make statements like you do, it shows how much you deserve the Finheaven spin award. Nobody was saying that wins aren't important, the discussion was about qb play and how Mr. Buttfumbler really didn't help.....and in that game, his team won in spite of having one of the worst qbs ever to make an AFC Championship.

he was VITAL to winning that game, the game was won at QB. SD's QB made the big mistakes, ours did not.

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he's the team mvp in my book...who else would it be??? this d is overrated as hell the oline blows he's getting sacked more than any qb in football yet still we are playing 500 ball and in the hunt for a postseason berth...

yep team mvp is the 2nd year qb...overcoming a lot of things

you guys win when your pass rush is dominating, lose when they aren't. Your season needed saving in TB, did Ryan step up? On Sunday the D won that game harassing Rivers. 2 biggest games of the year, Ryan nowhere to be found.

 

[hoops]

the jets ran a form of west coast o with mark sanchez...i just to verify when it was...i know they did cause i remember saying how bad a fit he was for it accuracy wise when the offense runs off accuracy

maybe it was under sparano...hmmm....i will figure it out

 

[hoops]

he was VITAL to winning that game, the game was won at QB. SD's QB made the big mistakes, ours did not.

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you guys win when your pass rush is dominating, lose when they aren't. Your season needed saving in TB, did Ryan step up? On Sunday the D won that game harassing Rivers. 2 biggest games of the year, Ryan nowhere to be found.

what are you nuts??? this d gives back every lead this o gives em and tells the qb with the worse pass pro in football to go down the field and score in the 2 minute like it's their business...

 

[Phinatic8u]

Jesus. Will you ****ers quit arguing about Mark ****ing Sanchez and Geno Smith..

Nobody gives a ****!

 

[dolpns13]

They both suck. Cant stand that so much time is spent on this forum discussing two crappy Jets QB's. Junc comes on here just to get us to discuss them because noone on the Jets forums will. Those fans know those two QB's suck.

Jesus. Will you ****ers quit arguing about Mark ****ing Sanchez and Geno Smith..

Nobody gives a ****!

 

[Phindog]

tannehills the highest ceiling young qb in the game...that is all

and Geno has the lowest......

 

[nyjunc]

what are you nuts??? this d gives back every lead this o gives em and tells the qb with the worse pass pro in football to go down the field and score in the 2 minute like it's their business...

the sacks aren't all on the OL.

The D finished off the game the other day and while they blew a lead in TB they gave your O 2 chances to win it and they failed.

Cle you won w/ D
Ind your D held down Luck but Ryan played really well
Atl Ryan led a great last min drive
NO Ryan didn't compete
Bal D scored TD to tie it late, D gets stop, O goes 3 and out. bal gets FG, O has almost 2 mins, best they could do was near 60 yd FG
Buf throws INT for TD, throws another RZ INT on awful decision and pass, fumbles to set up GW FG. Gets ball near midfield needing FG, doesn't gain a yard
NE outscored 24-0 in 2nd half
Cincy- D scores to win in OT, nice drive at end of regulation to tie though
TB- has multiple chances to tie/win, fails
SD- D sets up lone 4th qtr scoring drive giving ryan ball at 40 yd line, D closes out game not allowing SD to score on final 2 possessions and only 6 pts in entire 2nd half.

 

[Phindog]

Luck is light years ahead of Tannehill when it comes to pre snap reads and moving in the pocket. A lot of what Luck does is he avoids pressure and sacks to help out his OL. Tannehill doesn't do that (yet).

Luck is light years yet has almost identical stats

 

[hoops]

the sacks aren't all on the OL.

The D finished off the game the other day and while they blew a lead in TB they gave your O 2 chances to win it and they failed.

Cle you won w/ D
Ind your D held down Luck but Ryan played really well
Atl Ryan led a great last min drive
NO Ryan didn't compete
Bal D scored TD to tie it late, D gets stop, O goes 3 and out. bal gets FG, O has almost 2 mins, best they could do was near 60 yd FG
Buf throws INT for TD, throws another RZ INT on awful decision and pass, fumbles to set up GW FG. Gets ball near midfield needing FG, doesn't gain a yard
NE outscored 24-0 in 2nd half
Cincy- D scores to win in OT, nice drive at end of regulation to tie though
TB- has multiple chances to tie/win, fails
SD- D sets up lone 4th qtr scoring drive giving ryan ball at 40 yd line, D closes out game not allowing SD to score on final 2 possessions and only 6 pts in entire 2nd half.

dude...some of this may be right but unless you have watched every snap we have played you shouldn't be trying to tell me what happened or who carried what in each one of em...i mean seriously

i dont tell you what geno or the jets did in every game...cause i dont see every one every play...but by and large when i do see em the overwhelming elephant in the room in just about every one is the qb SUCKS

 

[nyjunc]

Luck is light years yet has almost identical stats

Ryan has almost DOUBLE the INTs, how are the stats almost identical? Overall Luck has 18 TDs(pass/rush) and 8 TOs, Ryan has 15 TDs and 19 TOs. Luck has led his O to 23.6 PPG, Ryan 19.7

they aren't close

 

[Phindog]

Elite QBs are guys like Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers- the ceiling for Ryan is nowhere near that caliber of player. I think he can be an Eli type as his ceiling but that is far from an elite QB.

Pure nyjunk!

 

[nyjunc]

dude...some of this may be right but unless you have watched every snap we have played you shouldn't be trying to tell me what happened or who carried what in each one of em...i mean seriously

i dont tell you what geno or the jets did in every game...cause i dont see every one every play...but by and large when i do see em the overwhelming elephant in the room in just about every one is the qb SUCKS

That is fair, I have seen most of your games but not every snap but you do that exact same thing proclaiming Geno to suck based on not seeing every snap.