Tannehill vs Luck

[Elle Clouds]

Those stats you present are very intriguing, but the comparison should not be made. Luck is head and shoulders over Tanny. I hate when people keep talking about Tannehill learning the position even though he is running the same offense he ran in college. I know there is a speed transition, but being in the same system for years should give him the edge, but Luck is that dude. Look how he maneuvers in and out of the pocket while making big time plays.

 

[Heinegrabber]

BALL SECURITY and I am not talking about JOCKSTRAPS!!!!!

RT has more fumbles this season than AL has in his career.

 

[spiketex]

I have both of them on my Fantasy Football team and I have also been surprised how well some of Tannehill's stats compare with Luck. And Ryan got his yardage, etc in one less game than Luck because of the bye. However, Luck is ranked about the 5th best QB and Tannehill is ranked about 17th best. It doesn't add up.
My conclusion is that the gap between them is nowhere near as great as some of the media experts would have you believe. Luck has quietly done a brilliant job of intoxicating the many media experts in the belief that he is the next Peyton Manning. He does his job well and has starred on some of the big games when the spotlight is on, eg vs Denver, while Tannehill has had a lot less media attention. Luck's underperforming games eg San Diego in San Diego, get swept away as an anomaly.
The statistical comparisons are real but Tannehill needs to deliver more big wins in more games to be taken more seriously. (Chad Henne had better stats than Mark Sanchez for years before the media woke up that the Sanchize was over-rated, but Mark had some big wins when the spotlight was on and that permitted more $ and he's more telegenic).

 

[Dthrill_08]

I have both of them on my Fantasy Football team and I have also been surprised how well some of Tannehill's stats compare with Luck. And Ryan got his yardage, etc in one less game than Luck because of the bye. However, Luck is ranked about the 5th best QB and Tannehill is ranked about 17th best. It doesn't add up.
My conclusion is that the gap between them is nowhere near as great as some of the media experts would have you believe. Luck has quietly done a brilliant job of intoxicating the many media experts in the belief that he is the next Peyton Manning. He does his job well and has starred on some of the big games when the spotlight is on, eg vs Denver, while Tannehill has had a lot less media attention. Luck's underperforming games eg San Diego in San Diego, get swept away as an anomaly.
The statistical comparisons are real but Tannehill needs to deliver more big wins in more games to be taken more seriously. (Chad Henne had better stats than Mark Sanchez for years before the media woke up that the Sanchize was over-rated, but Mark had some big wins when the spotlight was on and that permitted more $ and he's more telegenic).

Spoke the truth lol. Tannehill should be 2-0 vs Luck if Sean Smith can cover Wayne on 3rd and what, like 20. That was so sad. Tannehill came back to beat the Falcons, came back and put us in a position to tie against the Ravens (Horrible play calling), came back to almost beat the Bills (Again horrible play calling). Yea he played bad against NE Pats but Luck didn't do too hot himself.

I will say this. Luck had help from some bs plays. Come on the Vick Ballard one, the WR that got in the endzone with like 3 seconds left, etc.

 

[Regulus]

Luck is a student of the game. He clearly has that fire you see in the greats like Brady and Manning. Tannehill doesn't come across that way. He seems like a guy that just wants to go out there and have fun. Watching the end of the NE/Jets game when NY was driving for the win it looked like someone told Brady his wife left him and took his favorite dog. He was disgusted by the thought of losing to a division rival. Compare that to Tannehill after the fumble against Buffalo who appeared relaxed and totally indifferent to what was about to occur. I just don't get the sense that the guy really has what you want upstairs. He's not dumb, just doesn't have that crazy desire to win at all costs.

 

[roy_miami]

Snap count. Tannehill just knows go or go-go while Luck is out there doing his best Peyton Manning impersonation.

 

[Birdmond]

Just the fact that some on this board think Tannehill is comparable to Luck is kind of a microcosm of the problems with this board.

 

[Elle Clouds]

Luck is a student of the game. He clearly has that fire you see in the greats like Brady and Manning. Tannehill doesn't come across that way. He seems like a guy that just wants to go out there and have fun. Watching the end of the NE/Jets game when NY was driving for the win it looked like someone told Brady his wife left him and took his favorite dog. He was disgusted by the thought of losing to a division rival. Compare that to Tannehill after the fumble against Buffalo who appeared relaxed and totally indifferent to what was about to occur. I just don't get the sense that the guy really has what you want upstairs. He's not dumb, just doesn't have that crazy desire to win at all costs.

I have an issue with his lack of passion. When he turns over the ball he just walks to the sidelines like nothing just happened. I understand putting it behind you, but dude have some kind of passion about what's going on during these games. I've seen more passion from pick up games. As a fan that's emotionally invested in the game, I'm usually irate. I'm not saying he has to throw a fit, but at least walk up the sidelines and boost the morale of your teammates. Dude just looks like " I wonder if it's meatloaf night tonight" right after throwing a pick 6 or fumbling the game away.

 

[shoveyjoe2442]

Luck is a student of the game. He clearly has that fire you see in the greats like Brady and Manning. Tannehill doesn't come across that way. He seems like a guy that just wants to go out there and have fun. Watching the end of the NE/Jets game when NY was driving for the win it looked like someone told Brady his wife left him and took his favorite dog. He was disgusted by the thought of losing to a division rival. Compare that to Tannehill after the fumble against Buffalo who appeared relaxed and totally indifferent to what was about to occur. I just don't get the sense that the guy really has what you want upstairs. He's not dumb, just doesn't have that crazy desire to win at all costs.

This comment is based on nothing but mindless assumptions and meaningless fan speak. Congrats. Oh course Shouright thumbs it up.

 

[shoveyjoe2442]

I have an issue with his lack of passion. When he turns over the ball he just walks to the sidelines like nothing just happened. I understand putting it behind you, but dude have some kind of passion about what's going on during these games. I've seen more passion from pick up games. As a fan that's emotionally invested in the game, I'm usually irate. I'm not saying he has to throw a fit, but at least walk up the sidelines and boost the morale of your teammates. Dude just looks like " I wonder if it's meatloaf night tonight" right after throwing a pick 6 or fumbling the game away.

Because you watch him the entire time he is on the sideline and what he tells his teammates? More mindless fan speak. Look I am on the fence about Tannehill, but you guys are ridiculous.

 

[Elle Clouds]

Because you watch him the entire time he is on the sideline and what he tells his teammates? More mindless fan speak. Look I am on the fence about Tannehill, but you guys are ridiculous.

When I am at the games, I do have the luxury of following players on the sideline to monitor their demeanor. If you're watching on TV then I don't expect you to see the same. For example, Tom Brady usually rips someone a new ******* if they drop a pass or run the wrong route. I love that passion because he is willing to hold himself and others accountable.

 

[Kinzua]

When you watch them play they are noy even close. Luck has so much more awareness it's not even funny. Luck is an absolute stud

I have been waiting for Luck to NOT be the stud he was advertised to be coming out of college ... well, it ain't happenin' apparently. He's miles ahead of any of the other QBs in his class, and probably already better than all but the elite veteran QBs. The more I watch him, the more I'm impressed. He's got the mysterious, undefinable "it" factor that separates the guys who go to the HOF from everybody else. The only other young QB who's even close to Luck in terms of having that special "it" factor seems to be Russell Wilson. These two kids are already carrying their teams, which is amazing.

That doesn't mean the other young QBs are bad, but rather that they aren't in Luck's (and possibly Wilson's) class. Eli, Rivers, and Roethlisberger are great QBs, but they aren't in the same class as Peyton or Brady or Brees.

 

[Shouright]

I have been waiting for Luck to NOT be the stud he was advertised to be coming out of college ... well, it ain't happenin' apparently. He's miles ahead of any of the other QBs in his class, and probably already better than all but the elite veteran QBs. The more I watch him, the more I'm impressed. He's got the mysterious, undefinable "it" factor that separates the guys who go to the HOF from everybody else. The only other young QB who's even close to Luck in terms of having that special "it" factor seems to be Russell Wilson. These two kids are already carrying their teams, which is amazing.

That doesn't mean the other young QBs are bad, but rather that they aren't in Luck's (and possibly Wilson's) class. Eli, Rivers, and Roethlisberger are great QBs, but they aren't in the same class as Peyton or Brady or Brees.

Luck carried his team last year, in fact. His defense and running game were both relatively poor, and his clutch play got the team to the playoffs.

Wilson on the other hand had both a very good defense and a very good running game, although of course he played well himself. He just didn't do the extent of "carrying" Luck did.

 

[Carne Asada]

Well Tannehill was a starter in college for only 1 1/2 seasons. I don't think he had the time to develop a field general persona. But not having that "passion" has its positives. He keeps his cool, poise, composure much better than most young QBs. Without those things he wouldn't be able to bounce back from a bad start the way he does or scan the field or get up from a bad sack fearless. Honestly I think Tanne is at the very least as good as Dalton, Stafford, Flacco or Ryan right now and has much more room to improve than those guys. If you have a Luck man crush then that's just personal tastes. If I were to envy a QB picked in that draft that would be Wilson cause anyway we had no way to pick Luck but we missed out on Wilson and IMO Wilson is and will be the best QB in that class 10 years from now if he stays healthy.

 

[DANTODUPER]

Some think me to be crazy to compare the two. Let's take a look at how they are doing. Updated.

RT has dropped back 260 times to Luck's 249. RT is 136 of 224, a 60.7% to Luck's 133 of 219, a 60.7%. Hmmm, no difference there.

RT has thrown for 1574 yards, a 7.0 average to Luck's 1577 yards, a 7.2 average. Same.

RT has 9 TD's to Luck's 10 but, has 7 picks to Luck's 3. There's a difference but, RT is sacked 26 times with 18 drops to Luck's 15 sacks and 16 drops. Seems pretty damn close considering.

Then there's always Luck throwing long more. On passes over 20 yards in the air, RT is 8 of 21 for 293 yards. Luck is 9 of 28 for 307 yards.

GODDAMNIT, I can't see the difference. What am I missing? Oh, maybe it's the head to head battle?

183 yards rushing 3 TD vs 70 yards rushing (1 fumble) no TD's. That is another dimension Luck adds to the game.

That and his pocket awareness which is special, while Tannehill has "below average" pocket awareness. However I think Tannehill must be judged with a better combo of OT's, still sometimes he hold the ball way too much time, and makes stupid throws. I think experience might cut some of that, but like Sanchez, it might not. Still too soon to tell. I am optimistic about him but not SOLD at all.