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IMO, the only reliable information you can glean from the passer rating stat is if you're below 65 you probably suck, if you're above 95 you are probably good and a rating between 70-90 is inconclusive.
 
Sons of Shula said:
How the :redx2: is T-hill bust thread this long. :tubes:

His body of work is way too small to judge such a thing. Especially this year with an astonishing lack of protection and injuries to Keller and Gibson while all the while watching footballs thump of of Stumps Wallace's "hands".

There are definitely times when the T-hill shows the "it" factor at the end of half and games.
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Its so long due people discrediting the moronic idea that he is a bust. Only those who have complete tunnel vision would consider him a bust right now. Does he have things he has to work on, of course, however he has more upside than downside right now. Also give him an extra second and every one of us knows he will completely pick apart a defense-even the haters cannot dispute this with any shred of reason

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Snookslayer said:
His career rating is 78.2. Compare that to damn every other QB drafted in 2012.

I know... "But it's not his fault. Nothing is ever Tannehill's fault."
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Oh no, "But it is his fault. Everything is his fault" :crazy:

Hows it looking in the tunnel?
 
Phinatic8u said:
With Luck yes, but RG3 hasn't done anything that made me wow.

You asked for "rating" comparsions, don't change it up now that the other 2012 qbs have close to the same rating in 2nd year..

Now that RG3 lost that running ability he hasn't been the same, 9 INTs and 12 tds..About the same as Tannehill.
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Now that's an accurate statement. Soon as he used RG3 in his arguement I laughed!
 
dolpns13 said:
Its so long due people discrediting the moronic idea that he is a bust. Only those who have complete tunnel vision would consider him a bust right now. Does he have things he has to work on, of course, however he has more upside than downside right now. Also give him an extra second and every one of us knows he will completely pick apart a defense-even the haters cannot dispute this with any shred of reason

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Oh no, "But it is his fault. Everything is his fault" :crazy:

Hows it looking in the tunnel?
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'Tunnel vision' that's a perfect word for some of these posters.
 
Snookslayer said:
At least those guys have shown sparks of brilliance. Tannehill hasn't really done that. When Luck or RB3 has the ball, you get the sense something amazing could happen at any moment. When Tannehill has the ball, you just hope he doesn't screw it up. Seems like we drafted a "game manager" rather than a game changing QB.
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You do realize doncha that Reggie Wayne's TDs, YPG, total yards was just about the difference between he and Luck outside of Luck having more ints last season. How's it working out for him without Reggie so far? LOLOLOLOL
 
awfulwaffle said:
We got him all this talent this year, and he has thrown only 2 more TDs than INTs. He has 0 pocket presence, and by now he should realize he doesn't have all day to throw the ball or he's going to get sacked. The only reason we won on Thursday is because of the Defense. 4 turnovers and Tanny can't do anything with them. You guys act like he's some kind of god. Overrated at minimum.
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awfulwaffle I totally agree with you, but be careful what u say about a Tanny because people here still believes he is the best QB ever. I never thought he has it, and he never will. Tanny is mediocre at best, and is no bet err than Henne. But like I said, be careful.
 
roy_miami said:
IMO, the only reliable information you can glean from the passer rating stat is if you're below 65 you probably suck, if you're above 95 you are probably good and a rating between 70-90 is inconclusive.
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So should we hold out hope for Chad Henne, given that his career rating of nearly 75 is "inconclusive"?

Dan Marino is also "inconclusive" for his career, at 86.4.
 
Too early to call him a bust.. he does have bad pocket presence and bad end game management. . He ckuld show more urgency imo.. but all of that can be fixed... I think mike Wallace can be used differently I dont think he sucks I think sherman does... charles clay, lamar miller, d thomas can all be used better which would help tanny grow... wallace isnt all to blame for his struggles tanny has thrown him some bad passes but all in all I blame this horrid offense on sherman and his dumb play calling...
 
I cannot even judge Ryan Tannehill right now because his line is so historically bad that even Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Joe Montana would look like Ryan Leaf behind that line. After our 4-game-losing-streak I thought that Tannehill is no better than Chad Henne but after our last two games and watching Chad Henne against Tennessee last week, I'm glad that Tannehill is our QB and not Henne. At least IT LOOKS LIKE Tannehill has some upside. Having said that, I don't think he will be able to reach that potential with Mike Sherman or Joe Philbin.
 
Even if you aren't sold on Tannehill, he is one of the better players on this mediocre team. He is the least of our problems right now...
 
Atila said:
Even if you aren't sold on Tannehill, he is one of the better players on this mediocre team. He is the least of our problems right now...
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That perspective discounts the importance of quarterback play in the National Football League.

As strongly as quarterback play is related to winning in this league, you can't have a quarterback who is performing below average on just about every objective measure and call him "the least of your problems."

Until you have a quarterback who is performing at least above average, he is your biggest problem, because until you get that issue sorted out, you will very likely not be competitive in this league.
 
shouright said:
So should we hold out hope for Chad Henne, given that his career rating of nearly 75 is "inconclusive"?

Dan Marino is also "inconclusive" for his career, at 86.4.
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I should have specified that my hypothesis is based on yearly passer ratings (PR) not career. Also should add that its possible average PR is going up over the years with the new rules but I haven't looked into it.

Dan Marino had 2 individual season of 95+ including 14th highest of all time at 108.9

As for Henne inconclusive doesn't mean you have to wait and see, it simply means you can't draw any conclusions from this particular stat. Also, one season of 95+ or 70- doesn't mark you for your career, it just means you were great that year or you stunk that year, but it is an indication. Two years of 95+ almost certainly means you are an elite QB (Marino) and two years of 70- almost certainly means you suck (Sanchez).

There are a few exceptions but most of the guys that had a passer rating of 95+ multiple times are considered elite QBs.

But my main point is this stat is useless most of the time.
 
Fins4vr661 said:
awfulwaffle I totally agree with you, but be careful what u say about a Tanny because people here still believes he is the best QB ever. I never thought he has it, and he never will. Tanny is mediocre at best, and is no bet err than Henne. But like I said, be careful.
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No one ever said he was the best qb ever. Straw man argument. we need an age limit on this site.
 
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