Tebow on the Trade Block, Miami Dolphins a possibility

[RobertHorry]

Tebow is hopeless at QB. He's even slower than Henne at processing whats on the field and how to attack coverages.

Hopefully Henne has improved, but Tebow is terrible at on-field processing.

 

[hoops]

You do realize tebow signed for only 9.75M over 5 years right? 23.25M through incentives but 9M of them are 'unlikely to be earned'. That's pretty cheap for a QB that could possibly be a franchise one. Not bashing or anything, I respect your opinion. Plus that bonus would be paid by the broncos if traded here. All the guarantees are paid by the broncos. We'd only be on the hook for about 12M of tebow's salary for the next 4 years. Low risk.

ok guys...so which is it then...cause now you;re telling me on the hook for 4 years and $12 mil...on the hook how??? guaranteed money??? if so thats nuts...i guess i need to find cks break down in this thread

even a $3 mil a year base salary is still too pricey for a developmental #3 qb...i'm not eating a $3 mil base in trade on a developmental qb...

 

[BlueFin]

Denver has already paid Tebow the 6 million dollar bonus, I have to question if he is really on the block?

 

[hoops]

Like I said, you obviously don't know his financial implications.

In a nutshell. He would count about 1.5-2 million against our cap. 2 million for a project with plenty upside whether he fails or not is well worth the risk considering the upside and versatility he brings

i guess i don't...but i'm gonna find out whats what...i can guarantee you that...i'm getting mixed bag answers in this thread...gotta find cks breakdown

 

[hoops]

b/t there's an awful lot of people in this thread who are going to hell...

 

[BlueFin]

Orton and Quinn are relatively young, with a chance to go into the open market in 2012. They would need pretty compelling reasons to pass up that potential financial windfall, which means the Broncos would likely have to dangle more-than-market value to them before that.
That doesn't seem likely given the team's controlled approach in free agency.
Not only is Tebow under contract next year and beyond, but the team just gave him a bonus of just over $6 million. The Broncos appear to be positioning themselves to let him learn this season and see what they can do with him in an offseason that doesn't include a lockout.​

Read more: Q&A: Tebow figures in Broncos' future - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18758033#ixzz1W9PRrySR
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This doesn't look like a team ready to deal Tebow to me, but you never know? But it says they did already pay him the 6 million.

 

[hoops]

Thanks. Excellent find Kdawg. It makes sense to me now:

"$6.275 million due 29 days after start of 2011 league year. Typically season starts March 1, but it's written this way in case work stoppage delays start of season. (Salaries from 2011-14 reduced to offset advance)"

That's the key part of it, what I highlighted. The total contract value that Miami would be on the hook for is still $8.42 million from 2011 thru 2014, with the potential for a $1.5 million bonus if he gets 45% snap participation in any year. However, the bulk of those salaries are fully guaranteed and what happens on September 2nd is those guaranteed salaries get reduced to minimums, while the excess gets scraped off and paid up front.

So Miami would be in effect "signing" Tim Tebow to a 4 year, $8.4 million contract with $6.3 million in guaranteed money, and a $1.5 million incentive bonus should he play 45% of snaps or more in any year.

That's a decent deal. Absolutely. That's an excellent deal for Miami. Don't wait for Denver to cut him, you won't get him. He'll get picked up off waivers.

$6.3 mil guaranteed for a #3 developmental qb who one teams already given up on is a decent deal??? no its not...i realize the qb position is always gonna be inflated when it comes to salaries but #3 developmental qb with $6.3 mil guaranteed no thanks...or maybe i just don't believe in this kid enough to justify it

yeah you're right if you wait til he's cut you likely don't get a chance to get him off waivers as other have higher priority but still...there's no way i'd want to guarantee a guy that money who's failed to the point the broncos have even had some discussions about a position change...they may be rumors but still...no way

he'd HAVE TO restructure for me to consider it

 

[hoops]

would i take tim tebow over pat devlin as my #3 qb right now??? yes...would i pay him $6.3 mil guaranteed to do it...hell no

 

[Kdawg954]

Denver has already paid Tebow the 6 million dollar bonus, I have to question if he is really on the block?

Technically, Tebow's deal was 5 years and 9.75 million.

I'm almost positive he got around a million last season.

He is due around 6.3 million this season.

Meaning he will make about 500,000 a year, for the next 4 years (after he is paid his 6.3 million on September 2nd).

The bonus to Tebow was due 29 days after the start of the league year which is technically September 2nd. I think Denver can cut him and not be on the hook if I'm not mistaken.

Any team trading for Tebow would be paying 4 years and roughly 8 million, if they kept him for 4 years. It goes higher if he reaches certain incentives.

 

[BlueFin]

Technically, Tebow's deal was 5 years and 9.75 million.

I'm almost positive he got around a million last season.

He is due around 6.3 million this season.

Meaning he will make about 500,000 a year, for the next 4 years (after he is paid his 6.3 million on September 2nd).

The bonus to Tebow was due 29 days after the start of the league year which is technically September 2nd. I think Denver can cut him and not be on the hook if I'm not mistaken.

Any team trading for Tebow would be paying 4 years and roughly 8 million, if they kept him for 4 years. It goes higher if he reaches certain incentives.

According to the Denver Post article I referenced above...they already paid him the 6 million bonus.

 

[Kdawg954]

According to the Denver Post article I referenced above...they already paid him the 6 million bonus.

I got ya, the original contract stated the bonus would be paid 29 days after the league year started, which would have been September 2nd, but part of the collective bargaining agreement included paying "these type" of bonuses immediately instead of waiting 29 days . . . so yea, Denver already gave him the money.

Yea, I can't see Denver trading for Tebow unless they got some kind of value back for him, and they won't cut him having had to pay that already. He is going to stay a Bronco for a while unless a team is willing to give up something decent in a trade.

 

[hoops]

it would be one things if tebow had a inflated base salary and you could just get out from under it by cutting him but just giving a guy $6.3 mil guaranteed to come in and be your emergcency developmental qb...ehhh...not unless when i evaluated him for the draft i felt AWFULLY good about him

i seem to recall buffalo was very high on tebow during the draft...if he gets released maybe they'd scoop him up...i just don't think anyones trading and taking on $6.3 mil guaranteed for him unless he's coming in worst case as the #2 qb...i guess in buffalo that could be the case...but he's not my #2 over matt moore...not right now he's not

 

[Mr. Magoo]

According to the Denver Post article I referenced above...they already paid him the 6 million bonus.

That's my understanding also. I did some research last night and from the best I can tell, we also gave Merling more than a $1 million dollar bonus once the lockout ended (the language was somewhat vague on this point, though). Mandatory and immediate payments of these bonuses was a part of the CBA negotiations, which is either going to make trades completely impossible for everyone... or make everyone just suck it up and realize that they're trading away an asset they just paid a big bonus to for an asset that just had a big bonus paid to them.

I am personally not interested at all in Tim Tebow as a quarterback prospect. It's an utter waste of time. So if I'm going to trade for him, I'm going to communicate to him that he'll never, ever play quarterback for me. As in never, for no reason (other than as a part of a trick play). If he can sign off on that, buy into it, then I do think -- as CK's said -- that he has value as a short yardage player and a FB/TE convert. His athletic numbers really do bear this out. And those kinds of raw skills I do think is worth Merling (and possibly a late pick) in a trade.

 

[umpalu]

I don't know if he'll ever be a good QB in the NFL or not but as a Christian I'm rooting for him......the guy has never done anything bad like some of the other thugs in the NFL so why do people wish him bad?

Ozzy rules!!

Tiger Woods never did anything bad either

 

[nerfball]

the Tebow hype was all the fault of Josh McDaniels and his idiotic notions that got him canned. Tebow is not anything remotely resembling an NFL QB. So what? a TE? Please... let it go.