The Case for Chad Henne and the Long Ball

[MDFINFAN]

Does this sound familiar? A poster asked this question:

So now Henne is an above average QB, right?

Please put up some stats of Henne’s completion percentage beyond 15 yards. He still can’t put the ball in a receivers hands in full stride. He’s done it 2 times that I remember. Once to Ted Ginn and once to Brian Hartline. Two completions do not a career make. Does anyone think that the Pats, Jets, Steelers, etc. are concerned about Hennes deep game. He doesn’t have one. He remains a limited player in a game that requires a full compliment of talent. Reggie Bush was a surprise, I was very impressed with his game. His offense was probably the reason the running game and Hennes passing was successful. You are sadly mistaken if you think that Henne is the answer.

so the site answered his question with facts...how about that..

Their conclusion and please read all the examples they used..

We have become so accustomed to hating Chad Henne that we are often blind to the fact that he is a solid quarterback. When you take into account that 2010 was a "horrible" year for Henne, the fact that he is still right in the middle of the AFC East quarterbacks becomes even more impressive.

Will Henne perform at Brady's level? Probably not. But, could he out perform Mark Sanchez, who has led the Jets to the AFC Championship game each of the last two year? He already does.

I didn't even think about this way either, I'm like everyone else thinking he misses the long ball..but facts are facts..

the Long Ball

 

[GRYPHONK]

What Facts?

Those facts show that in the East Henne was the worst QB in passes 11-20 yards. He wasn't even close to the next QB in that raning. 74 rating Fitz was at 87 with 10 TD'S to Henne's 2. This is also where Henne throws most of his INT'S.

In the 21-30 mark Henne was the 3rd best. Only Fitz was worse. That is with a 74 rating which was 16 points below Sanchez.

So we have now discovered Henne was tied for the worst in passes from 11-30 yards in the air. Not a ringing endorsement. Then when you factor in total stats Henne is the worst out of the 4 QB.S
Sanchez has been significantly better based on those stats.

31-40 range? Henne had a laughable 15 rating. Fitz had a 30.1 rating both Sanchez and Brady both over 100

I am finding it hard to see where Henne is in the middle of that pack here?

Now he really shines in the over 40 yards category. His 1 completion beat the other 3.



THE FACTS ARE based on the stats and article you gave us, Henne was the worst QB out of the 4.

Besides why should we get excited even if Henne was on par with Sanchez and Fitzpatrick anyway? That is like saying hey, our QB is below average but atleast he is on par with other below average QB's in our division

The FACT is that Henne only completed 3 passes over 30 yards. He only completed 9 over 20 yards. Past 20 yards Henne was 9/40. That is less then 25%. Fitzpatrick completed 14, Brady completed 14 and Sanchez completed 14.

Henne was the worst at the long ball that is what the facts show

I love How the article Praises Henne for his 1 completion over 40 yards and how he was better across the board in that category. 1 PASS LOL

 

[BlueFin]

What was obvious to me from that is that Henne throws a lot more interceptions than touchdowns when he throws past the line of scrimmage.

And Sanchez does just the opposite.....he throws more touchdowns than interceptions.

Touchdowns is how you score and win games in this league right? Sorry, Henne was solidly number 4 among AFC East quarterbacks last year.
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[MDFINFAN]

What was obvious to me from that is that Henne throws a lot more interceptions than touchdowns when he throws past the line of scrimage.

And Sanchez does just the opposite.....he throws more touchdowns than interceptions.

Touchdowns is how you score and win games in this league right? Sorry, Henne was solidly number 4 among AFC East quarterbacks last year.​

He did throw a lot of int's no doubt, but his completion rate to his players is also higher than Sanchez..who had holmes, crouterich (sp), and Edwards who got better separation...that's makes it a little easier to thrown less int's.. and Henne recievers dropped a lot of passes last year also.

 

[Sirspud]

Wow those numbers are awful. How are these supposed to make Henne look good? Also, most of us are well aware that his longest deep ball was actually one caught by Brian Hartline after it bounced off a defender's hands and into the air.

 

[finfan54]

there is something to be said about dribbling in the past. I dont think this offense is looking backwards.

therefore, i dont care about anyones stats. This is a new year, new OC, new attitude and more talent around in a spread offense.

 

[tay0365]

I have been saying this this entire off-season, yes, Henne does need to prove himself, and he needs to get better with the deep passes when his receiver is wide open, but Sanchez with all his advantages to succeed, is nowhere as good as Henne.

Without Henning this year, a more aggressive Coordinator, and better weapons like Bush, Henne will get all the chances to succeed, he needs to take advantage of it.

 

[MDFINFAN]

I have been saying this this entire off-season, yes, Henne does need to prove himself, and he needs to get better with the deep passes when his receiver is wide open, but Sanchez with all his advantages to succeed, is nowhere as good as Henne.

Without Henning this year, a more aggressive Coordinator, and better weapons like Bush, Henne will get all the chances to succeed, he needs to take advantage of it.

In terms of the deep ball and the ones he had trouble with last year, he still needs to show the improvement with his new weapons...because of the non offseason, it's probably not going to happen until around the 5th game...but hopefully it happens..

 

[tay0365]

What was obvious to me from that is that Henne throws a lot more interceptions than touchdowns when he throws past the line of scrimage.

And Sanchez does just the opposite.....he throws more touchdowns than interceptions.

Touchdowns is how you score and win games in this league right? Sorry, Henne was solidly number 4 among AFC East quarterbacks last year.​

Right, let's not even try to remember that Sanchez threw more passes into the hands of the opponants then Henne did.

I guess Henne needs to send out a memo like Sanchez, that if your a d-player, you needs to drop the ball just like they did for Sanchez last year.

 

[LikeUntoGod]

There sometimes seems to be a thin line between reasons and excuses.

But for me, Chad Henne's lack of accuracy on deep balls is depressing. He has been often underthrowing as overthrowing open WRs on long balls.

That is one reason his TD total is so low. Last season we had a couple of times WRs open long and Chad Henne missed every single one of them.

 

[BlueFin]

He did throw a lot of int's no doubt, but his completion rate to his players is also higher than Sanchez..who had holmes, crouterich (sp), and Edwards who got better separation...that's makes it a little easier to thrown less int's.. and Henne recievers dropped a lot of passes last year also.

His completion percentage means dick if he throws more intercetions than touchdowns. Its about scoring.

 

[MDFINFAN]

His completion percentage means dick if he throws more intercetions than touchdowns. Its about scoring.

Again, his precentage could be a reflection of his receivers not getting separation and thus making the passing lane much tighter...thus upping the chance of int's, plus a OL who didn't give a lot of time to make deeper throws..all those things go into it... You would think with Brady having so much time to throw, his deep ball would be through the roof over Henne, yet Henne's precentage on the deep is higher then Brady...

 

[armyphin]

Here is the break down...

Behind Line Of Scrimmage
Brady
Henne
Fitz
Sanchez

1-10 yards
Brady
Henne
Fitz
Sanchez

11-20 yards
Henne
Sanchez
Brady / Fitz (tie)

21-30 yards
Brady
Sanchez
Henne
Fitz

31-40 yards
Brady
Fitz
Sanchez
Henne

41+
Henne
Sanchez
Brady /Fitz (tie)

And that is with the Henning offense. I think he does better this year with more weapons and options.

 

[MDFINFAN]

Wow those numbers are awful. How are these supposed to make Henne look good? Also, most of us are well aware that his longest deep ball was actually one caught by Brian Hartline after it bounced off a defender's hands and into the air.

Awful....no. 2 in most categories....well the poster when back and compared him to the elite..hmmm..he's not bad, and didn't have the weapons these teams had..

The Case Chad Henne and the Long Ball - Part 2


bottomline as you read the article.

Quarterback
------------------Behind Line of Scrimmage -----1-10 yards--- 11-20 yards---- 21-30 yards--- 31-40 yards--- 41+ yards
Chad Henne----- ----------74.6% ------------------65.0% ---------58.3%---------- 25.0%----------- 15.4%------ 33.3%
Drew Brees ----------------83.3% ------------------72.3%--------- 56.9% ----------44.1%----------- 46.7%------- 9.1%
Peyton Manning----------- 90.6%------------------ 74.4%--------- 51.6% -----------28.3% -----------33.3%------ 0.0%
Matt Ryan------------------ 78.8%------------------ 69.3%--------- 52.0%----------- 22.2% -----------50.0%------ 28.6%
Jay Cutler------------------ 77.8%------------------- 69.2%-------- 49.0% -----------22.9% ------------28.6%------ 28.6%

Chad's problem is between 20-40, but 41+, he's better than the elite..they don't hit it allow either...and I'd probably said their 20-40 is guys with yac..

 

[mega-fin-love]

Good Lord some people have 0 common sense. Henne has proven to suck for years in games that actually count. Until he shows that he can be a good QB in real games than he still sucks and has proven nothing. If you disagree than you are wrong and don't understand football. Period