Smith21
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When Wilkins gets Sun type treatment and signs for more money then tyreek hill, everyone will be ok with him leaving. It’ll be ok, everyone breath
I'm not anti Grier. He has some good qualities, and has had some fails, same as most GMs.I wanted Jefferson over Jackson. And yes I think the way the Waddle trade worked out was unusual.
But Waddle has been very productive. Jackson took a while, as you mentioned, but he's turned out to be really good.
I believe Howard was Grier's first draft. Of course, he also drafted Tunsil and ended up trading him for a lot of assets.
Have to credit Grier for the trades, too, that brought Hill and Chubb.
If you look at Miami's roster, compared to the rest of the league, it's easily top 10.
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have listed Chubb.I'm not anti Grier. He has some good qualities, and has had some fails, same as most GMs.
I have a hard time, however, looking at the Chubb acquisition as a positive move.
Between the draft capital and contract it was too much, IMO. It was a desperation attempt to somehow get a decent pass rush, when we were not good enough all around to make it worthwhile.
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have listed Chubb.
He certainly hasn't been terrible, but I do think Miami overpaid a little for him. A 2nd and 4th would have been easier to take.
But at least we know Grier can be bold. I think that's mostly a good quality for a GM.
well said....fingers crossedWe should start to see some moves made this week. The FO/HC were in Indy for the combine but they’re back now. First things first, we need to get under the cap and that has to happen by next week at the latest. we're almost 32mill over right now. All the talk about tagging Wilkins was a pipe dream.......they'd need to clear the 31mill plus another 20mill+ in order to have the space to tag him so he's hitting free agency along with Hunt, Williams and AVG among others. Hard to predict what we'll do with the draft till we see what we do with free agency.
Also, nobody knows what this team will look like right now. I'm waiting to see what happens with free agency but the fact is we're going to lose some talented players. We just don’t know how many or how we'll replace that. I think the OP has a legit question about the team but the answer at THIS point should be, we just don’t know.
agree chubb deal is a big part of the problem.I'm not anti Grier. He has some good qualities, and has had some fails, same as most GMs.
I have a hard time, however, looking at the Chubb acquisition as a positive move.
Between the draft capital and contract it was too much, IMO. It was a desperation attempt to somehow get a decent pass rush, when we were not good enough all around to make it worthwhile.
Yea, the team didn’t need one of the best CB’s and edge rushers in the league because they were loaded at talentGrier was an idiot to go all in on a team who had not yet won a playoff game. Never should have traded for Chubb or Ramsey.
I guess whatever you were smoking when you read my post.Lmao! We literally have 1 healthy D linemen ans 2 O linemen worth a damn and 1 is hurt half the season and that is a result of good drafting? Good Lord dude, what kind of dope you smoking?
Yup....probably a year too soon. I felt this was a bust in year 1 of Chubb being here.....however last year I think this started to pay off and a good part of that was the play of Phillips on the other side.I'm not anti Grier. He has some good qualities, and has had some fails, same as most GMs.
I have a hard time, however, looking at the Chubb acquisition as a positive move.
chubb was meaningless his first year here, last year was better, but then he got hurt at end when it mattered most, now will be out most of this year and no idea what he will be when he gets back. you look at what we gave up in exchange for what we got (including no playoff wins with him), it is a terrible deal (and now the cap consequences are being felt too it has implications). ravens were smarter. got roquan smith, better player, doesnt get hurt, gave up less draft capital, waited till end of season to re-sign him as opposed to throwing the bag at him without him taking a snap, and ended up paying him a fair bit less than we paid chubb tooYup....probably a year too soon. I felt this was a bust in year 1 of Chubb being here.....however last year I think this started to pay off and a good part of that was the play of Phillips on the other side.
No question it was expensive......
Im a better GM in Madden tooIf we lose all those guys it will be out of sheer mismanagement. I was a better GM in Retro Bowl