The evil empire does it again

Discussion in 'Beasts of the AFC East' started by PhishyPhishy, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. PhishyPhishy

    PhishyPhishy Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand how they pull off these deals.

    Undrafted 3rd string QB Brissett for 2015 1st rnd wr Dorsett.

    What The F&^% is that?

    Colts are descending quickly into the gutter of the league.

    Rich get richer.
     
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    Brissett was a third round pick in 2016.
     
  3. PhishyPhishy

    PhishyPhishy Well-Known Member

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    Yup just saw that, for some reason I thought Pat's picked him up last year after the Brady suspension. None the less, am I wrong in thinking this trade is absurd?
     
  4. Sons Of Shula

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    This is why you continually attempt to develop young talent, especially at the QB position.

    Patriots have been able to acquire a good amount of draft picks over the years via trades involving QB's who have merely shown potential in small spurts.

    Moore is a waste of a roster spot.
     
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    Why do the colts want Brissett!
     
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    Because luck is hurt a lot. They can't rely on him hardly at all anymore
     
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    DolfanISS Perennial All-Pro Finheaven VIP

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    Wow they can't depend on the best QB of all time. A guy worth throwing your season over? Shocking? According to finheaven Luck is already the GOAT.
     
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    They're not smart that's why. Brisset is the definition of a severely restricted scheme QB.

    I know a guy they could have signed that wouldn't have cost them Dorsett who could double the playbook Brissett can run.
     
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    I agree in this case. The fact the Colts gave something up for him based in 1 preseason game is ludicrous. Why not go get Matt Flynn at least he threw 6 TD's in s real game.
     
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    Hes talking about Kap. And Kap is better then any QB out there
     
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    I know and agree. Just dinging the Colts for trading for Brissett based on a good preseason game.
     
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    Lol I know. That why when tanny played through all his hits I realized how much of a stud he was.
     
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    Good deal for both teams.

    Colts get a good backup quarterback and stand in starter in Brissett. Ok they have lost a former first round receiver, but they do have ample depth at the position for them be able to make the move.

    Pats get another talented receiver that can stretch the field for them.
     
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    The guy wasn't even good in the 2.5 games he played last year. He hasn't even thrown a TD for crying out loud. They basically let him throw a few short passes and just handed it off every play vs us last year. How they pulled this off. The trade is idiotic for the Colts. Was Joe Philbin the architect of this deal or something? If I'm Andrew Luck I'm trying to GTFO of there and get on a team that is better run. Whether Dorset materializes or not is immaterial. You don't do this trade. Jacoby Brisket - LOL.
     
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    If people want to talk about the limitations of Kaepernick and then think the Colts made a smart decision by having to trade for Brissett, you're an idiot.

    When Brissett played for the game and a half or so for the Patriots last year, Belichick ran an offense from 100 years ago. I ****ing kid you not. It was a T-formation triple option scheme used by George Halas in the 1920's.
     
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    Why can I picture Dorsett torching our secondary now?
     
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    Really? Matt Cassel is the only one I can think of. They got a 2nd round pick for him, but they also packaged Mike Vrabel in that trade. They invested a 3rd round pick in Mallet and traded him for a 6th or a 7th. Not a good swap. This Bressett trade is nice, but it was for a player not draft picks. Who am I forgetting?
     
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    I was also thinking Bledsoe who was traded to the Bills in '02 for a 1st rd pick. Though that doesn't really fit the young potential narrative I was pushing there. Good point.
     
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    3rd string QB for a PR/KR. Didn't give up anything and got little in return.
     
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    Yeah, but your idea is still solid if teams can do it. It's just easier said than done. It would be interesting to find out which team has groomed the most starters over the past few decades. Green Bay is the team that pops into my mind. Mark Brunell, Ty Detmer, Matt Hasselbeck, Aaron Brooks, and Matt Flynn were all drafted by GB and started games for other teams. You could add Aaron Rodgers to the list, but I'm only counting QBs who started for other teams. Does any other team have more than GB in the last 25 years?

    The 49ers have had 4 with Alex Smith, Ken Dorsey, Tim Rattay, and Elvis Grbac. NE would be close with Bledsoe, Cassell, Mallet, and Brisett if he starts any games. Who else?
     
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    and Brian Hoyer
     
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    I forgot about him. If Brisett starts games, NE would have 5 qbs in 25 years that started games for other teams. Although, none of those guys (beside Bledsoe) were any good. If Brisett does start for the Colts, I would still give the edge to GB. They had a few solid QBs come out of there when Favre was QB all those years. Brunell, Detmer, Hasselbeck, and Brooks all started playoff games in their career's as starters.
     
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    that's why...

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  24. Fins1971

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    If you want to bet on the Patriots to make the playoffs this year the odds are -4000. You have to bet $40 to win $1. So much for league parity.

    Next closest team is Seattle at -650 ($6.50 to win $1)

    The Dolphins are currently +375. Not much faith.
     

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