the fumble td was frerotte's fault

[NYinBostonFin]

Funny how everyone is blaming Gus for this, but if it had been Feeley, everyone would be lynching the O-line.

.....OK, have you been on this site ever? For every 1 gus bashing thread there are about 50 feeley bashing threads.

We are leaving gus in, but what happened to gus has been happening to feeley since last season. All I saw from Feeley haters has been, "stop with the excuses". Now the Gus people are on the defense.

It sucks, but it is the way this site goes. Even when the final decision is made (if it hasn't been already) this arguement will not die until the next qb is brought in.

 

[Regina Phin]

This Frerotte bashing has got to end. The way it sounds on this board right now, half the people here didn't even see the play at question. It was one missed block, and something that can be fixed very easily. Stop the panic attacks already....

The overall OL play against the Steelers was not all that bad. This is one of the best DL's in all of football, and considering that, our OL made decent progress last night....

I have to agree with Blitz on this one... and not just because I like Lacuna Coil

 

[sports24/7]

I'm just sticking up for the guy. Mainly because, You and I both know that Feeley, berlin and rosenfels all would have done the same in that situation. I'm not about getting on people for being human and not making a spectacular decision in preseason. But everyones acting like this was the playoffs and he just blew us the afc championship or something.

You can't say that Feeley, Berlin, and Rosenfels would have made the same play. Feeley was making better decisions not trying to force anything or do too much (although his clock management was very poor). Maybe they would have, but that is all speculation. The only thing we know for sure is that Gus made a bad decision in that situation and if he wants to win the starting QB job he can't do stupid things like that. That play was a 10 point swing, by practically taking 3 points off the board on a chip shot and giving them 7.

 

[Dphins4me]

No matter what, if the LT was supposed to block him, being that he knew the snap count, he should have at least been able to slow him down.

Ferrotte looked to his first option which was a dump off to the left. He didnt have time to look right.

I really think Hadnot was at fault, or the Center made the wrong call.

I only saw the play twice so maybe you right but thats what I got out of it.

Personally I do not know how it could be Hadnots fault, unless he simply went to the wrong block.

The one thing we do not know is what was called, so the person we might think was at fault, might not actually be the one at fault.

I still say it was the simple case of too many, too fast a LB.

 

[DrAstroZoom]

the steelers showed a "bringing the house" blitz look presnap. gus backpedals and holds on to the ball. gotta be snap bang in that situation.

Ok, guys ... I just got back from lunch, and I watched that play about four times in a row. There was no snap, bang to this play. There was barely a sn ... Frerotte didn't have room to drop back, much less throw, much less avoid an intentional grounding even had he thrown. It was an o-line breakdown combined with a great pass rush.

 

[finfan54]

Ok, guys ... I just got back from lunch, and I watched that play about four times in a row. There was no snap, bang to this play. There was barely a sn ... Frerotte didn't have room to drop back, much less throw, much less avoid an intentional grounding even had he thrown. It was an o-line breakdown combined with a great pass rush.

you see? the doctor has spoken. the truth, now you can all go home and get ready for ronnie brown and his first carry as a miami dolphin. I hope all the whiners stay home for this one. Who needs ya?

 

[prolific]

I only saw the play once on replay, but from the look of how he held the ball, his hot read may have been covered completely, or maybe never got off the line........holding the ball as he did, looked like he was trying to get rid of the ball immediately, but wasn't able to.

Then tuck it and take the sack or throw it at a receivers feet, just don't turn it over.

 

[DrAstroZoom]

Then tuck it and take the sack or throw it at a receivers feet, just don't turn it over.

Seriously, guy, I don't think he had time to tuck it. He most DEFINITELY didn't have time to throw it.

 

[thecoordinator]

Ok, guys ... I just got back from lunch, and I watched that play about four times in a row. There was no snap, bang to this play. There was barely a sn ... Frerotte didn't have room to drop back, much less throw, much less avoid an intentional grounding even had he thrown. It was an o-line breakdown combined with a great pass rush.

yeah there was, watch it again. then watch it again. watch it as many times as it takes you to figure out what could have been done to avoid a sack/fumble aside from 5 offensive linemen picking up a 7 man rush

 

[DrAstroZoom]

watch it as many times as it takes you to figure out what could have been done to avoid a sack/fumble aside from 5 offensive linemen picking up a 7 man rush

I could watch the play until the Tampa Bay kickoff, and I wouldn't be able to find a way to avoid that sack.

 

[Dphins4me]

Seriously, guy, I don't think he had time to tuck it. He most DEFINITELY didn't have time to throw it.

He had time to tuck it, had his great pocket awareness kicked in on that play. :D

I'm not blaming Gus for the play, just like I did not blame AJ for the Urlacher sack. Sometimes the other team just makes a good play. It does not always have to be a screw up by Miami for the other team to find success.

 

[thecoordinator]

I could watch the play until the Tampa Bay kickoff, and I wouldn't be able to find a way to avoid that sack.

then you have no business taking part in this discussion. carry on now.

 

[Dphins4me]

yeah there was, watch it again. then watch it again. watch it as many times as it takes you to figure out what could have been done to avoid a sack/fumble aside from 5 offensive linemen picking up a 7 man rush

I guess Gus could have rolled out to his right and bought more time, but then he would have had to know before the snap that JF would come through clean.

Damn you Gus for not having ESP.

 

[DrAstroZoom]

then you have no business taking part in this discussion. carry on now.

Your opinion has been duly noted and discarded.

 

[Wildbill3]

there is also a time where you just take the damn sack and try again the next play...