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***The MIAMI HEAT 2006 NBA CHAMPIONS thread.***

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does anyone here deny that there were "jordan rules" and "kobe rules?" why should anyone expect that a rising star like wade would not be treated the same way?
 
Maynard said:
one player should not have 25 foul shots. the ref bias is obvious to anyone not rooting for the heat
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thanks for the wisdom.

Didn't know there was a quota on how many times one could be fouled. What's the limit, 18? Learn something new everyday.
 
Maynard said:
everybody gets fouled on every play.
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So then you admit the last play was a foul?

Come on you cant argue that, you drive to the basket and good things will happen, Dallas just didnt, they took way to many jumpers, and when you do that you wont go to the line
 
Alex44 said:
So then you admit the last play was a foul?

Come on you cant argue that, you drive to the basket and good things will happen, Dallas just didnt, they took way to many jumpers, and when you do that you wont go to the line
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then it follows that there should be 200 free throws in a game
 
Maynard said:
everybody gets fouled on every play.
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now you are just getting deep. If you go back in time, and do yourself, does that make you a)gay b)incestuious c)master baiter or or d)all of the above?
 
"Get Out Of My Face"

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Josh Howard was patient with my line of postgame questioning for about 30 or 40 seconds, and then he sort of lost it.
"What am I saying to you right now, dog? Please, don't come off on me right now because I'm going to come off on you, and I'm not in a great mood right now. Get out of my face, man. Get out of my face."
I was never in Howard's face, I was merely calmly passing along to him the explanation that referee Joey Crawford had given to my colleague, ESPN.com's Marc Stein, about the disputed timeout call with 1.9 seconds left that kept the Mavericks from inbounding from midcourt for a final shot.
The Mavericks were livid when their final timeout was called, coach Avery Johnson running onto the court and protesting vehemently that no timeout had been asked for. But Crawford told Stein (who interviewed him as the designated pool reporter): "Josh Howard goes to Joe DeRosa and not only once, but twice, asks for a timeout. Forced to call it, simple as that."
Armed with that quote, I approached Howard in the locker room to see what he had to say about it.
The transcript, pre-meltdown:
ESPN.com: "Josh, Joey Crawford said you called timeout twice. Is that true?"
Howard: "No. I'm going to leave it at that. No."
ESPN.com: "A pool reporter went in there, and Joey said you called timeout not once, but twice, and we had no choice but to give them the timeout."
Howard: "If that's what he's saying, that's what he's saying. I know I didn't call a timeout twice. I didn't even say nothing to anyone. I just made a sign like that." [Howard places his hands in the shape of a 'T']
ESPN.com: "Were you looking over at the bench when you did that?
Howard: "I was looking straight at coach."
ESPN.com: "Never made eye contact with the ref?"
Howard: "Never. Like for real, never."
So ended the civil part of our dialogue, and Howard -- as you can see above -- clearly wasn't in the mood to discuss it further.
Needless to say, I wasn't about to follow up with a question about his free-throw showing earlier in overtime or his history of making a mistake with a late timeout, although those would have been legitimate things to ask. (In college, on Feb. 24, 2002, Howard was with Wake Forest when he called a timeout he didn't have with 1.3 seconds left against Maryland. That's a technical foul, and Juan Dixon made 1-of-2 free throws to win the game.)
Howard's two missed free throws Sunday came with 54 seconds left and the Mavericks ahead 98-97. Gary Payton scored on the Heat's next possession, Dirk Nowitzki hit a jumper with 9.1 seconds left to give Dallas the lead back, and Miami inbounded to Wade for a final possession that ended with Nowitzki being called for a foul for placing a hand on Wade's hip.
Some in the Mavs' locker room were upset that referee Bennett Salvatore had whistled the foul from near midcourt, and there was an undercurrent of disgust in the disparity in fouls and free throws (Miami took 49 foul shots and Dallas 25, and the Heat were whistled for just 26 fouls to the Mavs' 38).
"I couldn't care less about the timeout, that's not the issue," Mavs owner Mark Cuban told me.
And so the Mavs headed out of the arena dejected, their week in Miami not exactly a disaster, but certainly a measurable failure.
They have at least one more chance to turn this series around, and they'll get that chance at home.
Maybe in Game 6 they'll play well enough to force a deciding Game 7, or maybe they'll still be so steamed about Sunday's events that they can't focus.
We'll find out Tuesday night. -- Chris Sheridan in Miami
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greatwade said:
thanks for the wisdom.

Didn't know there was a quota on how many times one could be fouled. What's the limit, 18? Learn something new everyday.
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your welcome. if one cannot see that 25 foul shots for one player is suspect, then that person is a blind homer...theres another bit of wisdom for ya
 
Maynard said:
your welcome. if one cannot see that 25 foul shots for one player is suspect, then that person is blind homer...theres another bit of wisdom for ya
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If that player is consistantly driving to the basket and landing on his *** getting foul calls why shouldnt he go to the line 25 times?
 
Alex44 said:
If that player is consistantly driving to the basket and landing on his *** getting foul calls why shouldnt he go to the line 25 times?
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ok fine, just make sure that everybody else gets to the line as well. its not happening and will not happen
 
Maynard said:
does anyone here deny that there were "jordan rules" and "kobe rules?" why should anyone expect that a rising star like wade would not be treated the same way?
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I deny it.

Jordan was awesome. Kobe is awesome. You have to foul them to stop them. You don't have to foul Devin Harris to stop him.

Doesn't take genius. There is some superstar treatment, but it is grossly overstated. If it were pervasively blatant the game would have no merit. And even though most of you ***** about officiating, they do a darn good job IMHO. And I say that when MY team loses...
 
Maynard said:
ok fine, just make sure that everybody else gets to the line as well. its not happening and will not happen
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Like the suspect call Dirk got?

You want to get technical Wade should have had 26 free throw attempts....1 at the end of regulation when he got bumped and sank the game winner. I mean stars get all the calls correct? Then again if he gets that there is no overtime and he ends up with 24 attempts I guess
 
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