passing James for Fitzpatrick I get why one could be upset but passing Jackson for Fitzpatrick Is not something to lament. Jackson is fun to watch because he’s an electric athlete but he simply is too limited as a passer. He went to one of the few places that could maximize his talents (San Fran and Tennessee being the others). He needed solid coaching with a good online, defense, and running game. He would not even sniff the success he’s had so far if we drafted him. My guess is that we’d still have drafted Tua this year even with Lamar Jackson on the roster. So in my opinion we lucked out because we ended up with the right QB and the right Jackson.
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passing James for Fitzpatrick I get why one could be upset but passing Jackson for Fitzpatrick Is not something to lament. Jackson is fun to watch because he’s an electric athlete but he simply is too limited as a passer. He went to one of the few places that could maximize his talents (San Fran and Tennessee being the others). He needed solid coaching with a good online, defense, and running game. He would not even sniff the success he’s had so far if we drafted him. My guess is that we’d still have drafted Tua this year even with Lamar Jackson on the roster. So in my opinion we lucked out because we ended up with the right QB and the right Jackson.
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Minkah blows
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No one wanted him in the first round dude. Unless you had a crystal ball, you wouldn't have picked him at 13 that year. Hell didn't the ravens pick someone else (TE Hurst), then trade back to get him at 32?? Even they weren't sold on getting him early.
He had a ton of questions and he's far from perfect. If he doesn't have a lead he essentially falls apart
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Minkah is a good player, no doubt! But anyone that watch last years games has to admit a lot of balls just came his way.
When you ask him to sit back there and watch he's a fine player.
However, when you ask him to tackle and cover he can and has been exploited.
When you ask him to sit back there and watch he's a fine player.
However, when you ask him to tackle and cover he can and has been exploited.
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Not worried. Used a #1 to get him, got a #1 back, and Jackson looks like a home run
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Punk. Bitch. 
Could just be a case where Fitzpatrick was being over valued which turned into overrated?
Certainly his play last portion of 2019 has continued into 2020. Time will tell, but it's not looking good for Pittsburgh or Fitzpatrick.
Certainly his play last portion of 2019 has continued into 2020. Time will tell, but it's not looking good for Pittsburgh or Fitzpatrick.
he’s a all pro HOFer.I can't imagine a scenario where Lamar Jackson would have come into Miami and became the player he is. He became an MVP last year because a team had the talent, willingness, and competence to reimagine its entire philosophy to enable him. Miami doesn't have any of those things.
If you're JAG who gets lots of turnovers, you're not JAG.
You're right, and Minkah doesn't get a lot.....so JAG gonna JAG for now.
Don't be so sure, Jackson is regressing so far back to his rookie year play. He'll always be a talented runner, but I think he has hit his ceiling as a passer. IMO he's destined for Mike Vick status, which isn't bad, but not something I'm hitching my wagon to in this day and age (no dog fighting thoughts implied)
Indeed. The greg roman offense is a strange case of super good one year, to predictable the next. Even with kaep and Taylor running it, this was a trend. Lamar is not a bad player but he needs to be able to make some throws with more consistency. Still a hell of a player, but one that would have been a massive reach at the time.