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The Official 2007 Copa America thread

Quelonio said:
You should rewrite that first post, so that it reads something like this:

Nothing happens it's just a a good streak by the US (mostly because they found out exactly how to play against Mexico's Lavolpe but hugo plays with no strategy whatsoever so things are so chaotic that we will confuse you and things will start leveling again)

that sounds a tad more accurate.
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:lol:
 
Quelonio said:
NANANANANANANAN!!!!!!!

Not listening to what the mean peruvian-american is saying!!!! NANANANANAN!!!!!!
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:lol: :up:

And with the way Peru is playing, I might just stick too American...:lol:
 
ckb2001 said:
By the way, the US Women will kick your ***** tomorrow at the Pan Americans too :D

On Saturday, the U-18's? I really don't know much about our team, but losing to Bolivia probably means our U-18's aren't very good.

On another note, the US U-17's will have a real good chance at the U-17 WC. The US has probably the best draw and will likely make it to the QF.
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Come on CKB, watching women's soccer is like watching amateur curling on a frozen pond. :D

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ckb2001 said:
FFiB, the analysis I gave still stands.

The question was never between sending A squads to both tournaments. The quesiton was whether we should send the A squad to EITHER the Gold Cup OR the Copa America. And we did the right thing because we would NOT have won the Copa America had we sent our A squad there and NOT to the Gold Cup.

Also, the analysis is by no means over. The US goes to the Confed Cup too where the games are highly weighted.

Either way, the analysis I gave is still correct. IF the US had to choose, we chose the right thing. Of course, the best would have been send the A squad to both tournaments, but that's beside the point.
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US Soccer is banking on 'what if'. We will talk after last years Confed Cup when the US faces the regional champions such as Brazil, the European Champion etc.

Our argument was, that the US will lose a lot of points by sending less than their top squad to Copa America. I also argued that Copa America is more worth than the US Gold Cup, even not winning Copa America and winning the Gold Cup. That has been proven wrong.

The Confed Cup used to be an annoyance to teams. Its value has increased. So the US will most likely face full squads of Italy (World Champion) Brazil (Copa America), next years European Champion, the African Champion which could be Ghana again - just to name a few. The chance of failure and lose important points are huge. It is a gamble which will not pay off. The US can not choose, it is in no position to choose. Major soccer powers can choose. And if they choose, they should pick the right tournaments like Copa America.
 
FFiB said:
US Soccer is banking on 'what if'. We will talk after last years Confed Cup when the US faces the regional champions such as Brazil, the European Champion etc.

Our argument was, that the US will lose a lot of points by sending less than their top squad to Copa America. I also argued that Copa America is more worth than the US Gold Cup, even not winning Copa America and winning the Gold Cup. That has been proven wrong.

The Confed Cup used to be an annoyance to teams. Its value has increased. So the US will most likely face full squads of Italy (World Champion) Brazil (Copa America), next years European Champion, the African Champion which could be Ghana again - just to name a few. The chance of failure and lose important points are huge. It is a gamble which will not pay off. The US can not choose, it is in no position to choose. Major soccer powers can choose. And if they choose, they should pick the right tournaments like Copa America.
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Still, losing all 3 games in Copa America and potentially 3 in the Confed Cup (worst case) in group play doesn't cancel out the points won from the Gold Cup. Gold Cup is rated equally high (all Continental Championships are rated equally by FIFA).

But, the knock-out stages and the final of the Gold Cup put winning that (slightly) ahead of even the worst case scenario of losing all 6 games in the other tournaments.

So, no IF one has to choose between sending the A squad to one of Gold Cup or Copa America but NOT both, then the US chose correctly.

Of course, it would be best to send the A squad to both and we're in agreement there. By the way, the US will probably send a relatively good squad to the Confed Cup. So, it's unlikely we'll come away with absolutely no points.
 
FFiB said:
Come on CKB, watching women's soccer is like watching amateur curling on a frozen pond. :D

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C'mon.. it's more like PROFESSIONAL curling :lol:

However, it doesn't diminish the fact that the women still have to win the World Cup in China later this year - pride matters, and we need to get ahead on the number of wins before the thing becomes too competitive.
 
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