The reason McCoy thinks he didnt get the job.

[Ben Had]

Really puts this thread to bed!

 

[dlockz]

I dont care anyway because did not want McCoy as coach . We hired a guy that earned it not some silly hire based on someone being young and gimmicks

 

[Birdstain]

Ireland just said that Philbin has 100% authority to hire his coaches. We will see, but he's on the record now.

I'm thinking McCoy is full of ****.

I'm loving this Philbin hire. I feel like great things will be coming to the Dolphins in the future.

 

[dlockz]

i dont doubt McCoys account but has little to do with if they made the same demand of Philben of which he didnt know. Like I said when McCoy was the guy people were on his jock and now that he is not he is a scrub lol

 

[Kistner10]

Oh, I don't put a lot of stock into it. Earlier in the thread you will see where I criticize Armando and the lack of trust I have in his reporting. I'm just saying that if this is the case, my opinion is as such.

To your point: Canceling an interview to focus on the potential job is fine. Canceling the interview and then telling people you did it because you're the front runner is another thing, which is what was reported. If you don't agree with what was reported, you have the right to make a statement refuting it. I don't recall McCoy doing that, but I also haven't looked very deep. If you did indeed go tell people you were the front runner, and you don't win the job, don't go complaining about why you didn't win it. If I recall, Philbin basically said one thing: If he's offered the job, he's taking it. I think that is one reason he is now the head coach.

Yeah I definately see your point.

My whole thing is that I don't think Mccoy thinking he was the frontrunner should affect whether the dolphins pick him as the coach or not. And I don't think it did. If I think someone is the best guy for the job than I'm not going to go for a lesser coach just because my first option is cancelling interviews because he thinks he's going to get the job.

In the end, I think the dolphins just went with who they felt was the best.

 

[Rev Kev]

Grow up Mr. McCoy you told your neighbourhood you were a lock and you weren't

 

[finsfanjay13]

Yeah I definately see your point.

My whole thing is that I don't think Mccoy thinking he was the frontrunner should affect whether the dolphins pick him as the coach or not. And I don't think it did. If I think someone is the best guy for the job than I'm not going to go for a lesser coach just because my first option is cancelling interviews because he thinks he's going to get the job.

In the end, I think the dolphins just went with who they felt was the best.

I agree with you. My only complaint is that McCoy apparently went out and starting whining. If he just showed his appreciation and moved on, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I also feel that the Dolphins went with who they felt was best, and surprisingly (after recent, uhm, lapses) I agree with them. Philbin may not work out, but I do think he deserves his chance.

 

[Kistner10]

I agree with you. My only complaint is that McCoy apparently went out and starting whining. If he just showed his appreciation and moved on, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I also feel that the Dolphins went with who they felt was best, and surprisingly (after recent, uhm, lapses) I agree with them. Philbin may not work out, but I do think he deserves his chance.

Yeah I'm pretty excited about the Philbin hire. I was too impressed with Mccoy's body of work and I've always wondered why we haven't pilfered from the winning teams. Instead of focusing on a mediocre team's castoffs like Dallas, we should be bringing in the team's like New England/Pittsburgh/ and Green Bay's bottom of the roster.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

who the hell knows. I trust not one word out of anybody in our organizations mouth nor do I trust a so called spurned coach. Im pretty sure none of us will ever know the truth

Agreed. I haven't been posting on Finheaven for a year or more and I'd largely forgotten about wobbly self serving guesswork until sampling this thread. I was reading one post after another, thinking, I'd like to bet against that being true, and that, and...

I could twist something and make the case that Philbin sounded weak and pathetic when he thought the Dolphins wouldn't call him back based on how poorly the Packers performed against the Giants. McCoy seems like the self confident type who didn't flinch after the Patriots' rout of Denver.

Regardless, I will take issue that Philbin "earned" the job while names like McCoy and Toub were gimmick reaches. That's exactly the opposite of the way I look at it. By earning something in conventional wisdom terms it means you trudged along, up the ranks like an unremarkable determined overachiever. There's nothing more boring on the planet than an overachiever. If I ran a franchise I'd put a quota on overachievers, and it would be next to nil. Give me guys who were prodigies, the first pick at every turn, who vaulted supposedly more qualified and experienced candidates at a flick without looking back or even noticing. I want brilliance. And it's even better when brilliance is ignorantly downgraded, like the rips on Reggie Bush the past few years. Al Davis in his prime took advantage of that for decades. And hired young arrogant coaches.

 

[finsfanjay13]

I could twist something and make the case that Philbin sounded weak and pathetic when he thought the Dolphins wouldn't call him back based on how poorly the Packers performed against the Giants. McCoy seems like the self confident type who didn't flinch after the Patriots' rout of Denver.

He was clearly joking. If you tried to twist that statement, Stretch Armstrong would call you out for reaching.

 

[dlockz]

Agreed. I haven't been posting on Finheaven for a year or more and I'd largely forgotten about wobbly self serving guesswork until sampling this thread. I was reading one post after another, thinking, I'd like to bet against that being true, and that, and...

I could twist something and make the case that Philbin sounded weak and pathetic when he thought the Dolphins wouldn't call him back based on how poorly the Packers performed against the Giants. McCoy seems like the self confident type who didn't flinch after the Patriots' rout of Denver.

Regardless, I will take issue that Philbin "earned" the job while names like McCoy and Toub were gimmick reaches. That's exactly the opposite of the way I look at it. By earning something in conventional wisdom terms it means you trudged along, up the ranks like an unremarkable determined overachiever. There's nothing more boring on the planet than an overachiever. If I ran a franchise I'd put a quota on overachievers, and it would be next to nil. Give me guys who were prodigies, the first pick at every turn, who vaulted supposedly more qualified and experienced candidates at a flick without looking back or even noticing. I want brilliance. And it's even better when brilliance is ignorantly downgraded, like the rips on Reggie Bush the past few years. Al Davis in his prime took advantage of that for decades. And hired young arrogant coaches.

I dont look at it as a trudging along. I see that Philben excelled as he moved up and a better opportunity came along because of what he has actually accomplished not based on some mythilogical what if I give this guy a chance that has had very average results because he is younger. mcCoy got all this hype for running the ugliest offense in the nfl, one that failed just as much of not more than it succeeded. He basically rode a wave much like our coaches did wildcat year. I personally would never promote a guy that did not produce better results than our current oc. Im about awarding excellence not treating a hire like a lottery ticket.

 

[Ta900]

Can you really blame McCoy for not wanting to keep Bowles on as D-Coord??? He was there firsthand and witnessed that turd Tebow, whom he (McCoy) had to work with all year, school the Dolphins D and came back from 15-0 to win with 3 minutes and change left in the game.