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There Is Only ONE Phin's Savior in 2014

If Lazor had any part in Foles success at all and can get Tannehill even close to that level we're gonna be cooking with gas. In 9 of 11 starts Foles had a passer rating of 100+, that type of QB production alone would equate to almost 12 wins.
 
dolpns13 said:
Thanks for informing us. We can all move on now Mr. All Mighty Savior Of Debating.
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Thanks for chiming in here D13. Is there some point or something you actually wanted to say or, did you just wish to say nothing to build up your post count? Sorry to pick on ya a bit but, getting tired of posts saying nothing on football, like this one. :)
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Even the elite QBs have had horrible games with the season on the line or in the playoffs. Stop pretending this is unique to Tannehill. The Marino-led Dolphins lost 62-7 in Marino's last game. He was 3 of 11 for 12 yards until the last drive before halftime. Brady, Manning, and many others have had stinkers.
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I'll agree IF you can show me two in a row.
 
I predicated my whole opinion this offseason and what we should do based on RT. It should be obvious.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
I'll agree IF you can show me two in a row.
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How about Superbowl winning QB Joe Flacco who also dropped two straight to miss playoffs this year?! Tannehill will be fine, he just has that little extra bit of motivation now.
 
sincitybaby said:
How about Superbowl winning QB Joe Flacco who also dropped two straight to miss playoffs this year?! Tannehill will be fine, he just has that little extra bit of motivation now.
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Did you watch Flacco vs RT in those two games?
 
Not sure my man, but I'm really looking forward to seeing him play and can't wait to see his potential and watch him play to his strengths. Which I think this oc will let him do. You gotta let him be him! Can't wait!
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Forget the GM, OC, HC and owner. We are gonna live or die based on Tannehill becoming very good this year. Nothing else matters much.

Overall, he did improve last year BUT, when it mattered most in the last two games, he fell apart. It's not subject to debate, no one can dispute how badly he played when the team needed him most.

He MUST learn from that and get over it, which I believe he will. IF so, we are going to be a legit contender. IF not, we are gonna have to hope to do so in 3 years or so.
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I do love the "it's not open for debate" comments.

Because you're the voice of authority on what can and cannot be debated?
 
Maybe tannehill and the rest of the O knew that winning those games and going to the playoffs, would mean Sherman was still here!

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FinfanInBuffalo said:
Peyton Manning last game of the season in 1999 against the Bills followed by a round one home playoff loss with a 45% completion rate.

If I tried, I'm sure I could find many others.
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That's absolutely classic. The happy adjusters know no limit of absurdity. Peyton Manning in 1999 did exactly what a premier prospect is supposed to do. He completely turned around the fortunes of both his team and his own play. The Colts went from 3-13 in Manning's rookie season of 1998 to to 13-3 in 1999. I love how you tried to let that little tidbit slide, hoping no one would notice. Again, that's the mode of a pathetic happy adjuster. Manning may have had a poor game at Buffalo in the finale but the only thing at stake was possible top seed above Jacksonville. The playoff berth was long established thanks to Manning's superb play all season. He vaulted from 6.5 YPA and 5.2 adjusted yards per attempt in 1998 to 7.8 YPA and 7.5 AYA in 1999.

Southbeach's point is valid. Tannehill had no excuse in the final two games. Miami was bet up to a 7.5 point home favorite in the finale hosting the Jets. Tannehill didn't even score the spread. It's laughable to compare that situation to Marino's 1999 playoff loss to Jacksonville, a road game against a 14-2 team that was an 8 point favorite. We were home to a 7-8 Jets team with Geno Smith at quarterback.

Tannehill's numbers stayed the same from rookie to second year, unlike Manning, because he's never been elite. He was forced into the top tier of the first round and now we hope for a modest payoff.

The scary aspect is that the happy adjuster mind attempts these type of desperate comparisons all the time. If there is nobody to call them out on it they actually stand unchallenged. But I have to credit this one for particular value. I needed a whopper of a laugh. :lol:
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Did you watch Flacco vs RT in those two games?
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Clearly you forgot that Flacco threw 5 Int's in those last two games and also got benched after getting thrashed against New England in Baltimore, a team that Tannehill shredded for 300 yards and 3TD's......but I'm sure I don't know what the hell I am talking about
 
Awsi Dooger said:
That's absolutely classic. The happy adjusters know no limit of absurdity. Peyton Manning in 1999 did exactly what a premier prospect is supposed to do. He completely turned around the fortunes of both his team and his own play. The Colts went from 3-13 in Manning's rookie season of 1998 to to 13-3 in 1999. I love how you tried to let that little tidbit slide, hoping no one would notice. Again, that's the mode of a pathetic happy adjuster. Manning may have had a poor game at Buffalo in the finale but the only thing at stake was possible top seed above Jacksonville. The playoff berth was long established thanks to Manning's superb play all season. He vaulted from 6.5 YPA and 5.2 adjusted yards per attempt in 1998 to 7.8 YPA and 7.5 AYA in 1999.

Southbeach's point is valid. Tannehill had no excuse in the final two games. Miami was bet up to a 7.5 point home favorite in the finale hosting the Jets. Tannehill didn't even score the spread. It's laughable to compare that situation to Marino's 1999 playoff loss to Jacksonville, a road game against a 14-2 team that was an 8 point favorite. We were home to a 7-8 Jets team with Geno Smith at quarterback.

Tannehill's numbers stayed the same from rookie to second year, unlike Manning, because he's never been elite. He was forced into the top tier of the first round and now we hope for a modest payoff.

The scary aspect is that the happy adjuster mind attempts these type of desperate comparisons all the time. If there is nobody to call them out on it they actually stand unchallenged. But I have to credit this one for particular value. I needed a whopper of a laugh. :lol:
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Regardless of the game's importance, Southbeach asked to be shown two bad games in a row from Manning or Brady and he got it. If the game wasn't important to the Colts at that time, why not bench Manning and let the backup handle the duties? If you play you want to win no matter the stakes.

Having said that, we know that our offense in 2013 was not good enough to overcome mistakes. In the last game against the Jets Matthews drops a pass on 3rd when he was wiiiiide open. We have to punt, Jets score a TD just before halftime. In the 2nd half Tannehill places a perfect pass to Wallace in the end zone, Wallace can't come up with it. That's a 14 point swing. I'm just saying it's not only Tannehill's fault we did not make the playoffs. He was basically the whole offense in 2013.

Every week in the league you can see players make plays for their QBs, like for example Boldin in SF. Last year it was Pierre Garcon in Washington who made countless plays for RG3. This year, not so much and you've just seen the result. When our receivers made plays for the QB (against New England or Pittsburgh) the QB looked good, when they didn't (against the Jets) the QB looks horrible. After all it's a team game. Yes, a great QB can elevate the game of his teammates but if the receivers don't catch the balls there's no way you can win the ballgame.
 
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