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Glad karma is biting them in the ass for the way they did Peyton wrong.
this would have been tannehill's breakout season
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Glad karma is biting them in the ass for the way they did Peyton wrong.
Phinatic8u
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That karma can come right on down too Miami..
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Tua time!
Lucks more a pro style o qb
Unlikely to play til mid October at least. By then Indys season will be over.
Unlikely to play til mid October at least. By then Indys season will be over.
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This thread is more boring then a check down on 3rd and 10.
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I'm not sure if you know what I meant. What I meant is that when there is widespread disagreement about how good a player is, it probably means he's about average.
When there are recurrent threads that drone on and on about it, it probably means he's also the player who plays the most important position.
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Joe was a great qb at one time. his play have fallen as of now...
it still hard not to believed that Dan Marino doesn't have ring. Tom Brady is luck qb with great coach.... Dan Marino is way better than Tom to me. But tom go down as best cause of ring
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Its not realistic, the absolute floor of any deal for Luck would be two 1sts. Maybe a 1st and a 2nd if we include Tannehill as a throw in lol
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The Dolphins organization owes it to Dolphin fans to move on from a below average QB. Shame on them for not even trying to improve the QB situation since Tannehill was over drafted. The only quality he had above average was durability and that is no longer the case. At the end of this year he will have missed 25% of possible playing time due to injury.
Plenty of options next year than to hand the keys back to a 30 year old never-was coming off injury. FA like Garoppolo, McCarron, Bradford, Cousins, Bridgewater. Trade possibilities for Smith or a young QB learning from the best in Hundley. A deep draft class with Darnold, Rosen, Jackson, Allen, Fitzgerald, Mayfield...
If a team doesn't have a top 10 QB then that team should be looking EVERY year to at least bring in competition to improve that position. That is just how dang important the QB position is.
There are so many QBs as young and younger than Tannehill that have exceeded Tannehill's ceiling already...Carr, Prescott, Mariota, Winston, Wilson, Stafford, Newton, Taylor, Cousins. QBs 6-8 years younger than Tannehill with far more potential Tannehill...Watson, Wentz, Goff, Turbisky, Kizer, Mahomes. Veterans that far exceed what Tannehill will ever become Brady, Brees, Rivers, Ben, Ryan, Manning.
Dolphin fans DESERVE better than the garbage we've been given the past six years. It would be insulting to Dolphin fans if the FO doesn't make an attempt to improve the QB position next year and hand the keys back to Tannehill.
Plenty of options next year than to hand the keys back to a 30 year old never-was coming off injury. FA like Garoppolo, McCarron, Bradford, Cousins, Bridgewater. Trade possibilities for Smith or a young QB learning from the best in Hundley. A deep draft class with Darnold, Rosen, Jackson, Allen, Fitzgerald, Mayfield...
If a team doesn't have a top 10 QB then that team should be looking EVERY year to at least bring in competition to improve that position. That is just how dang important the QB position is.
There are so many QBs as young and younger than Tannehill that have exceeded Tannehill's ceiling already...Carr, Prescott, Mariota, Winston, Wilson, Stafford, Newton, Taylor, Cousins. QBs 6-8 years younger than Tannehill with far more potential Tannehill...Watson, Wentz, Goff, Turbisky, Kizer, Mahomes. Veterans that far exceed what Tannehill will ever become Brady, Brees, Rivers, Ben, Ryan, Manning.
Dolphin fans DESERVE better than the garbage we've been given the past six years. It would be insulting to Dolphin fans if the FO doesn't make an attempt to improve the QB position next year and hand the keys back to Tannehill.
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Always was and will be a huge Marino fan, but attributing Brady possibly going down as the G.O.A.T to luck, WTF? Like saying Michael Jordan goes down as G.O.A.T only b/c he was lucky to have Jackson as coach.
I, too, am still amazed that Moore is our backup.
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You tried to derail the thread now twice. This thread is about Tannehill who is currently injured.
Everybody stay on topic and make sure you do not cross the line into PA territory. Some of you are touching that line gently. If that crappy thread gets any crappier I'll move it to the lounge (just to mess with Fishy @fishfanmiami ). :laugh
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The only insult would be to make an unnecessary change at QB rather than fixing the real problems with the team. The last loser HC wanted a QB change to hide the fact that he was a crappy coach that had build a crappy team. Nothing is worse than a weasel HC trying to buy a couple more years by making a QB change. Luckily for Dolphins fans, the current HC recognized that he already had the QB he needed. He went to work fixing the culture, coaching the players, and building a better roster. The result was the first playoff appearance in many years. Somehow the demonstrated PROOF of what Tannehill fans (and Philbin detractors) had been saying for years is simply ignored by the Tannehill detractors. Well, I'm here to say I TOLD YOU SO.
If every team without a top 10 QB should have a legit QB completion every year, how come we don't see 22 of them every season? BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW THE LEAGUE WORKS. IT NEVER HAS. The reasons are very very very simple. The first is that bulk of the QBs in the league are not that different from one another. There are a few elite, a few that are terrible, a few that are developing and unknown, and the biggest group that are good enough to win with. The second reason is that when you draft a new QB, you are much more likely to get Bortles, or Weeden or Manziel or Gabbert or Ponder or RGIII than you are to get Luck or Carr or Winston. So while you're flailing around at QB, other teams are building their rosters. That is how Carr, Prescott and Wilson step on to stacked rosters and have success.
Tannehill finished 12th in QB rating. He was ahead of many of the players you listed. You're not making any sense. Why would you advocate for moving on from Tannehill and suggest players that he outplayed last season?
Finally. Tyrod Taylor????? WTF????? ha ha ha ha ha.....
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The disagreement you guys are having here -- and really the disagreement about Tannehill throughout the thread -- is a product of the league's having changed the rules such that one player assumes a great deal more importance than any other player, coupled with the difficulty of obtaining one of the league's best players at that position.
The game grew leaps and bounds in popularity as a result of parity, which provided the fans of every team the possibility of contending at a high level every year, or not having to wait too long to contend. That parity has been decimated by the rule changes. Now the teams with the best quarterbacks stand a much better chance of being highly competitive.
And again, when you couple that with the difficulty of obtaining such a player, you have a fundamental change in the game with regard to parity. Now instead of feeling like we have a chance each and every year, we argue incessantly about whether the quarterback gives us such a chance, realizing as well on some level that a better alternative isn't readily available.
Notice the arguments about Tannehill have now been added to with arguments about Cutler. It's the same deal. The problem, again, however, is the disproportionate importance of that player.
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