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To be honest with you, I know we're going to go O line in the first round, but how much better, really, is our offense going to be with picking in the first round instead of second round? We could get help in FA, if that works out then we might be able to use our first pick for a skill player. TE and RB need upgrades.
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There will not be an impact OL player at 19. It's silly to waste that pick on an OL player that doesn't command it. This team needs play makers just as bad, so if one falls, like Ebron or Marquice Lee, you pull the damn trigger. As an organization we have got to stop with these reach type picks in the 1st round and start drafting impact players.
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I'm open to other options. Yes, priority is O line. But I don't think this is a one year fix. We're going to have no more than an average line this year, no matter what we do. Martin and Incognito are gone. McKinnie is old and overweight. Jerry is fat and lazy. Clabo I don't know what will happen with. Pouncey is the only good player on the line. Lamar Miller needs the grand canyon to run through, so no matter what we do, we can expect him to struggle again.
So if there is someone special falling to us, I say take him.
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Ebron sounds great! But they need to address the OL before the draft.
Egnew needs to be split out more not as a H back - that is where clay should be at.
they need to run more 2 TE sets and I form, Single back 2 TE sets.
Egnew and Sims were both 3rd round picks, need them to see the field!!
Egnew needs to be split out more not as a H back - that is where clay should be at.
they need to run more 2 TE sets and I form, Single back 2 TE sets.
Egnew and Sims were both 3rd round picks, need them to see the field!!
Clay is a nice weapon at H-Back/TE but they need a big athletic TE as well. If Ebron is there at 19 then you take him. If not you still look to upgrade your TE position whether it be in FA or the draft.
Clay's not your typical TE.....We need a seam TE that can also block. You can't count on Keller. I'm sick of going after players that are hurt. The only time it has worked is Grimes. Go after healthy players in free agency and the draft.
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Keller's a nice piece to have, but I think this offense could use a bigger body who can help in the redzone and as a blocker. It isn't a super high priority to me, once we bring back Grimes, one of our DT's and attempt to reconstruct this offensive line I'd start looking.
The last offensive skill position playmaker we selected in round one was Ted Ginn in 2007, before that 1998, John Avery. We need playmakers (multiple) to get this offensive out of the lower rankings of the league. Have to fix the O line also but I agree with Honey were not doing that all in one year. Do what you can in FA and some in the draft for the O line but don't pass up a playmaker for once if he is there in round one IMO.
Iam the first to say get an impact player.Who wouldn't want a future probowl te or rb.But even in our glory years we had an offensive line.And no we can't build one in one season.But we had better work on that first and foremost.Without one nobody gets a chance to catch a ball and nobody gets a 1000 yd season rushing.
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Even though the OL is are number 1 problem, I don't believe in drafting non-playmakers in the first round unless we're stacked or there is no better option. If Ebron is available you take him. Keller hasn't proven that he can stay healthy. I wouldn't mind Pitta but I would prefer to draft a big time TE.
We need a big powerful runningback that will make the o-line look better. Years ago the Cowboys line was considered awful. Then they drafted Emmit Smith and some of those linemen that were laughed at are now in the Hall Of Fame. I know great runners don't grow on trees but I would have taken a shot at Montee Ball in the draft last year. It appears Ireland whiffed on Gillesse but he's gone now so the new GM can find us a guy who hits the hole in a punishing way and falls forward after contact. Having said that, the line stunk last year and needs to be looked at and repaired with fresh eyes.
Per Schefter, Keller's knee "cartilage and nerves are intact," and "doctors believe he will have a chance to resume his NFL career." The catastrophic knee injury may still sap Keller's best assets -- his speed and movement skills. Out for the season, the 29-year-old will hit unrestricted free agency next March. (That was in August which most of us heard).
Keller said on his twitter in December in response to a question that he definitely will be back in 2014 but I'm afraid you might be correct. Let's hope he can make it back but with a new GM who knows if they would give him a look or not.
Has there been any news on how Keller is recovering? At the time it looked a very nasty knee injury requiring ACL surgery which is difficult to come back from. Has there been any news?
The prospect of getting him back might be academic if he has struggled with rehab.
The prospect of getting him back might be academic if he has struggled with rehab.
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Ebron, Amaro, and Seferian-Jenkins (ASJ) are all quality TE prospects ... but none of them is the complete TE I was hoping we'd get. Only ASJ has the size to be a real mismatch in the red zone and allow Tannehill to use his precise passing to create unstoppable TD's. But, he isn't a great blocker and not quite as fast as we'd like. Ebron has all the athleticism, but he's not quite big enough to be that size mismatch, and I'm not sold on his blocking either. I guess I don't really see the point of drafting Ebron to replace Clay, since they're kinda the same guy. Their skillsets are amazingly similar, as are their flaws. Amaro seems to be the one who has most outperformed his athletics, but he doesn't have the size either. I'd be fine with any of the 3, but given a choice I would still have preferred Tyler Eifert or Zach Ertz from last year's class.
I think our current TE position is a real weakness. Sure, Clay has extreme athleticism, he showed that at the combine and on the field this year. But, his blocking is woefully inconsistent, his route running is poor, and he's not dependable at either. He's really just good at running fast when you get down to it. His hands are suspect, his routes are poor, his blocking is subpar ... but if he's matched up 1v1 with a LB he simply runs past him and with a CB he's too powerful for the CB to tackle. Put him in wide open space and he's a monster ... but that's true of a lot of guys.
Egnew has the physical, including the size, but he hasn't got it all figured out yet. Sims looks slow and average to me. I'd say we definitely have a need at TE, and virtually nobody is assured of a roster spot. New GM means Egnew is definitely on his final shot or maybe just plain done. Sims never really showed anything. Keller is expensive and injury prone ... and can't block and isn't a size mismatch that you want in the red zone and in traffic over the middle. Clay ... well that's covered.
I think our current TE position is a real weakness. Sure, Clay has extreme athleticism, he showed that at the combine and on the field this year. But, his blocking is woefully inconsistent, his route running is poor, and he's not dependable at either. He's really just good at running fast when you get down to it. His hands are suspect, his routes are poor, his blocking is subpar ... but if he's matched up 1v1 with a LB he simply runs past him and with a CB he's too powerful for the CB to tackle. Put him in wide open space and he's a monster ... but that's true of a lot of guys.
Egnew has the physical, including the size, but he hasn't got it all figured out yet. Sims looks slow and average to me. I'd say we definitely have a need at TE, and virtually nobody is assured of a roster spot. New GM means Egnew is definitely on his final shot or maybe just plain done. Sims never really showed anything. Keller is expensive and injury prone ... and can't block and isn't a size mismatch that you want in the red zone and in traffic over the middle. Clay ... well that's covered.