TRADE?: Sam Bradford OUT with Torn ACL - Trade Matt Moore to Rams?

[Mike13]

I would give them Tannehill for a 2nd rounder and Shawn Hill.

Well thats because you're not that bright.

 

[SkapePhin]

Sorry. But anybody who doesn't think a backup QB can win g a mes to get to a super bowl should just think back to 1972 ! Anybody remember a guy named Earl Morrall without him the undeafeated season may never have happened! Shula never tanked a season just because his starting guy went down he just played the game to their strengths! And I am confident that Moore could win us games!

Completely different scenario. The 72 team was one that was built around an elite run game and great defense. The current Dolphins don't even have a running game to speak of, and is designed to be a spread, QB-focused offense. Few even believe this team is Super Bowl caliber WITH the starting QB, much less the backup.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

he has got enough left to still have been their backup already. he has always kept a job.
I mean seriously u have Shaun hill who knows the system and is a proven backup, would u really trade for a backup who has been no better as a starter than the guy u have.

I'm not advocating Fisher do that. Only that IF Fisher wanted to do that, we should tell him to ef-off.

 

[WVDolphan]

That's not news, that's an opinion. I happen to think your dog and pony dance for attention is played out. You offer slanted opinions in a matter of fact Like tone with nothing to support them but more opinions. It's tired. Id trade you to the gang green for a couple of Jets fans, at least those trolls' agendas would would be clear. Fortunately Finheaven has an ignore feature that I will time now place on your screen name. Unfortunately its taken longer than I would have liked to realize that despite the time you've spent here, and despite your post count, you contribute no credible nor meaningful substance to this or any discussion.

Also, WV is easily the worst state ive ever spent any time in. Just terrible.

What does any of this have to do with the topic of the thread?

Is this not the very definition of a personal attack?

Can we at least be fair and move this to the depths so that I can respond in a fitting manner?

 

[phins_4_ever]

Listen, we have had a DECADE of "almost" because of the mentality to trot out mediocre crap to struggle to win a few games. You, along with everyone else on this forum, would trade in all those Matt Moore-won games from 2011 that noone even remembers any more for the opportunity to have Andrew Luck leading the team for a decade.

It's actually not a loser attitude, its a winner attitude - sometimes you need to endure the worst to gain strength and succeed.



If the starter goes down, the season is already lost - no need to put lipstick on a pig and jeopardize the future. That being said, I understand the coaches and players won't think this way, and SHOULDN'T think this same way, its just as a fan I'd rather tank after a season ending injury to the starting QB than spin our wheels with a backup for nothing substantial.

A fan with small investment. It would be a totally different ball game for you if you'd be a season ticket holder and spend several thousand dollars/year plus countless hours tailgating.

Here is the thing what you don't understand. The Dolphins know the value of Moore and that he is perfectly capable of continuing on. That is why he is paid so much. His first three losses in 2011 are explained of being
a) the new guy in town
b) Henne got all the snaps with the first teamers

Moore is now three years with the Dolphins and even if we would go 0-4 like we did in 2011 and Tannehill would get hurt I doubt that we would be sitting at 0-7 before more gets a grasp on the offense.

Nobody will thankfully tank a season nor should they.

I really don't understand the hatred for a backup QB who has done nothing but being a top notch team member.

 

[phins_4_ever]

I am not sure he is even an upgrade.

Now you have an opinion on our backup QB as well?

The thing I remember is that he beat your sorry ass twice in row and the last time you were lucky to get away with a 30-9 loss. He didn't even start the game.

 

[enigmatics]

I really don't understand the hatred for a backup QB who has done nothing but being a top notch team member.

Crazy isn't it? Continues to amaze me the venom slung at the guy.

As far as losing is considered, screw that. I want to win. That start to 2011 was freaking miserable and watching Moore come in and fire up the team was an absolute pleasure. I missed seeing that kind of fire/passion out of the QB position.

Tanking isn't the certified way to glory. All these suck for Luck wackos didn't even know if we would've had the right regime in place to develop Luck.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Nobody will thankfully tank a season nor should they.

The Irsay family would like a word with you. :tongue:

 

[SkapePhin]

A fan with small investment. It would be a totally different ball game for you if you'd be a season ticket holder and spend several thousand dollars/year plus countless hours tailgating.

Here is the thing what you don't understand. The Dolphins know the value of Moore and that he is perfectly capable of continuing on. That is why he is paid so much. His first three losses in 2011 are explained of being
a) the new guy in town
b) Henne got all the snaps with the first teamers

Moore is now three years with the Dolphins and even if we would go 0-4 like we did in 2011 and Tannehill would get hurt I doubt that we would be sitting at 0-7 before more gets a grasp on the offense.

Nobody will thankfully tank a season nor should they.

I really don't understand the hatred for a backup QB who has done nothing but being a top notch team member.

As a fan, I don't mind watching the games knowing they will lose if there is some expectation of big reward at the end. I watched each and every game in 2007. It was almost a relief, because I wasn't so stressed that year watching games because I knew there wasn't any playoff (false) hopes.

I don't hate Moore at all. I like him, I think he is a great backup. But if the Rams came to us offering a 3rd, I'd dump him in a second. In the end, the backup QB isn't all that important unless you are starting the season as a bonified Super Bowl contender, which we assuredly are not. If the starter goes down, all Matt Moore could accomplish for this team is to spin our wheels. We will NOT win a super bowl with Moore at QB and it also wouldn't do anything for our future.

 

[phins_4_ever]

The Irsay family would like a word with you. :tongue:

You might have a point there.

But I doubt they tanked anything. Indy won both of their games at the end. Just by that philosophy they almost jeopardized the #1 pick.

 

[marinotoclayton]

Completely different scenario. The 72 team was one that was built around an elite run game and great defense. The current Dolphins don't even have a running game to speak of, and is designed to be a spread, QB-focused offense. Few even believe this team is Super Bowl caliber WITH the starting QB, much less the backup.

While the times may have been different the mentality is still the same you still play the game to win ! And Moore has enough experience and knows playbook well enough to guide the team should the worse case scenario happen! And I would feel much more comfortable with him than say Shaun Hill or even Quinn ! Who is even worse ! And as far as the running gsme is concerned that is one reason they brought in Knowsho!

 

[enigmatics]

As a fan, I don't mind watching the games knowing they will lose if there is some expectation of big reward at the end. I watched each and every game in 2007. It was almost a relief, because I wasn't so stressed that year watching games because I knew there wasn't any playoff (false) hopes.

I don't hate Moore at all. I like him, I think he is a great backup. But if the Rams came to us offering a 3rd, I'd dump him in a second. In the end, the backup QB isn't all that important unless you are starting the season as a bonified Super Bowl contender, which we assuredly are not. If the starter goes down, all Matt Moore could accomplish for this team is to spin our wheels. We will NOT win a super bowl with Moore at QB and it also wouldn't do anything for our future.

The odds are against that happening, but then again there's no definitive indicator that with Tanny we're not spinning our wheels.

 

[phins_4_ever]

As a fan, I don't mind watching the games knowing they will lose if there is some expectation of big reward at the end. I watched each and every game in 2007. It was almost a relief, because I wasn't so stressed that year watching games because I knew there wasn't any playoff (false) hopes.

I don't hate Moore at all. I like him, I think he is a great backup. But if the Rams came to us offering a 3rd, I'd dump him in a second. In the end, the backup QB isn't all that important unless you are starting the season as a bonified Super Bowl contender, which we assuredly are not. If the starter goes down, all Matt Moore could accomplish for this team is to spin our wheels. We will NOT win a super bowl with Moore at QB and it also wouldn't do anything for our future.

The Superbowl is definitely the ultimate goal but since we are not a bonified contender why start our starting QB and risk injury. Since we are not a bonidied contender why not tank the season from the get-go and not risk any of our starters until we think we have all the pieces in place to make us a bonifide Superbowl contender.

Going by the philosophy of being a bonafide Superbowl contender 3/4 of the league should tank the season and play for the title of the suckiest team.

Your reason of not being a bonafide Superbowl contender is as absurd as the notion that once Tannehill would be out with an injury we should just tank the season.

 

[spiketex]

Jim Irsay will never admit to tanking the season but he probably did. In addition to Peyton Manning's departure, Colts GM, Bill Polian was also given his marching orders. The truth may never come out because Polian is a gentleman, but Irsay saw an opportunity to get Luck and I guess he just got lucky, again.

 

[phins_4_ever]

Jim Irsay will never admit to tanking the season but he probably did. In addition to Peyton Manning's departure, Colts GM, Bill Polian was also given his marching orders. The truth may never come out because Polian is a gentleman, but Irsay saw an opportunity to get Luck and I guess he just got lucky, again.

So Irsay told 53 players to suck? And a bunch of coaches and coordinators? And it will be kept a secret?
But he gave them permission to win game 15 and 16 and jeopardizing the race "suck for luck"?