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Trainer O'neill fires back at Dolphins

datruth55 said:
If you think he wasn't consulted you'd be wrong. As the head athletic trainer who's worked with athletes that have had similar injuries he would be a definite resource to give recovery time, any performance issues, longevity concerns and everything else. If the Dolphins staff didn't consult with him, given he would probably be treating the player when/if signed, then the coaching staff should have been fired.
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Keyword: Consult.
 
finsfanjay13 said:
Yes. "Rehabbing injuries" for *current players*. He didn't do the *physicals*.

Here are the team's current physicians: http://nflps.org/miami-dolphins/

I'm sure datruth55 can find one of them as a more likely culprit.
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Trainers are responsible for collecting medical data for the team, evaluating injuries, and applying that to the game of football.


The ATC’s perform in-depth research from collegiate ATC’s and medical databases to obtain as much medical history as possible on their club’s targeted non-combine players.
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http://www.pfats.com/about/history/

http://www.pfats.com/nfl-workplace/the-combine/
 
Zounds said:
FL is an "at-will" state, meaning employers do not need just cause to fire an employee. They can fire an employee without warning, for any reason, as long as it is not discriminatory. I think O'Neill was also paid the balance of his contract. I'm no lawyer, but I don't see how this case will go very far.
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Thanks, that was I was getting at.
 
Zounds said:
The ATC’s perform in-depth research from collegiate ATC’s and medical databases to obtain as much medical history as possible on their club’s targeted non-combine players.
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http://www.pfats.com/about/history/

http://www.pfats.com/nfl-workplace/the-combine/
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What does that have to do with *current NFL football players*? Pretty sure Drew Brees didn't work out at the combine when Miami was evaluating him, nor Daunte Culpepper.

Also, here's the contextual part that you missed on your quote: "Additionally, each club usually has a list of non-combine athletes who are eligible for the upcoming draft."
 
finsfanjay13 said:
Keyword: Consult.
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If you were a consultant and gave your expert opinion on something and it failed how long do you think you'd have a job? Let's just say you were a financial consultant, gave some clients advice on stocks and most of them did well but a handful of them lost a lot of money. How long do you expect to be employed by your clients?
 
datruth55 said:
If you were a consultant and gave your expert opinion on something and it failed how long do you think you'd have a job? Let's just say you were a financial consultant, gave some clients advice on stocks and most of them did well but a handful of them lost a lot of money. How long do you expect to be employed by your clients?
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Wow. Talk about missing the point. Keep throwing darts and hoping they stick.
 
finsfanjay13 said:
What does that have to do with *current NFL football players*? Pretty sure Drew Brees didn't work out at the combine when Miami was evaluating him, nor Daunte Culpepper.

Also, here's the contextual part that you missed on your quote: "Additionally, each club usually has a list of non-combine athletes who are eligible for the upcoming draft."
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So you are basically saying the head trainer and his staff have absolutely no input on players injuries and rehab progress?
 
Hayden Fox said:
O'Neil is arguing everything many of us thought here throughout this process. It is common sense. I am glad lawyers are taking this on. Incognito should have done the same.
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:confused: When was Incognito fired? How would a team of lawyers help him?
 
finsfanjay13 said:
Do I seriously need to spell it out for you?
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I already understand the role of a trainer, but I think you need to spell it out for yourself.

You said the font office shouldn't be asking the trainer for a medical opinion in post #12, and then you admitted that trainers do have medical input in post #27. Seems like you are not sure which side of the fence to **** on.
 
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