The last two draft have been pretty good so I'm coming around on Grier myself
Our drafts have made more sense lately but the question is, does Grier really has the last word on who we pick? I know they always say that they all work together which can be good or bad. If it works out then great but if it doesn't then who's to blame?The last two draft have been pretty good so I'm coming around on Grier myself
Our drafts have made more sense lately but the question is, does Grier really has the last word on who we pick? I know they always say that they all work together which can be good or bad. If it works out then great but if it doesn't then who's to blame?
I'm all for t-baum staying way away from it allI think it's been a combination of him and input from Gase . Just last draft they report Ross wanted to go another way but they convinced him to get Fitzpatrick. That would not have happen in the past most likely and i feel tannebaum is staying out of it for the most part and letting those two do their jobs. I'm good with that.
did he or did he want to know what serious options were on the table. I did hear a little something about it, but I thought it was a lot of smoke being blown in the room.I think it's been a combination of him and input from Gase . Just last draft they report Ross wanted to go another way but they convinced him to get Fitzpatrick. That would not have happen in the past most likely and i feel tannebaum is staying out of it for the most part and letting those two do their jobs. I'm good with that.
NahIs it just me or is Louis DUNG starting to sound like Omar.
Sounded more like he was just challenging everyone to think outside the box. It was possible the saints came to us with the offer the packers took. There was a value on the trade down. I heard he was just creating a dialogue and not trying to control the decisiondid he or did he want to know what serious options were on the table. I did hear a little something about it, but I thought it was a lot of smoke being blown in the room.
that's what I kind of thought.Sounded more like he was just challenging everyone to think outside the box. It was possible the saints came to us with the offer the packers took. There was a value on the trade down. I heard he was just creating a dialogue and not trying to control the decision
I really don't think that color comes into it. Ravens GM, Ozzie Newsome has been recognized as one of the top GMs for decades (in his 23rd year at Baltimore - set to retire). If the individual knows what he's doing and has success with good drafts and good free agent acquisitions, working well with the Head Coach, it becomes pretty obvious. It should also be noted that Chris Grier didn't just come out of nowhere. His father is Bobby Grier, former Director of Pro Personnel for the Houston Texans. Prior to that, Bobby Grier spent several years with the New England Patriots, where he served in various roles, including as the running back coach, director of pro scouting, and vice-president of player personnel. Chris had been nurtured from the Belichick player evaluation philosophy at a young age and he even had 5 years working as a regional scout for Belichick.I like Grier and would hold on to him over Gase, Tannenbaum, and anyone else in the organization. I feel they are all frauds in comparison.
He's in a tough spot, certainly not a lot of minority NFL GM's - really only he and Reggie McKenzie are left. Perhaps because of this I've wondered if he's played it more conservatively the last couple years. I think in due time Grier with more autonomy and freedom will keep growing into his role. In my mind he's earned it and would hate to lose him. I'd love to give him the chance to draft his Qb and start steering the franchise in his vision.
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