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Tua Tagovailoa’s improvement is evident at Miami Dolphins training camp

tommyp said:
Sort of like how bill walsh said joe Montana was a system QB. In that regard I guess Mahomes is a system qb too. Idk, Mahomes is the best qb in football but he looked pretty pedestrian in the SB without his system around him
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Montana certainly greatly benefited from playing for Walsh. But Joe could execute at a very high level -- that's whet we need from Tua. Based on the early reports -- it seems his game is definitely trending in the right direction.

I think Mahomes is a different animal. And the SB "performance" was based on the absolute jail break (rush) he faced throughout the game. I mean seriously -- KCs OL was decimated by injury and just awful!

Mahomes is one of those rare talents that can transcend "system" IMO -- but of course he still needs blocking and players that can play. But that's true for ANY QB. It's a TEAM GAME...
 
tommyp said:
Sort of like how bill walsh said joe Montana was a system QB. In that regard I guess Mahomes is a system qb too. Idk, Mahomes is the best qb in football but he looked pretty pedestrian in the SB without his system around him
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More so…without his starting tackles protecting him from a good Tampa Bay pass rush!
 
Banksy said:
Erm, what? He's the starting QB of the team you root for.
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This is exactly what pissed me off being a Yankees fan with Arod. Yankees fans would literally cheer him striking out after the PED suspension. I was like um, you are literally rooting against your team here. People are dumb.
 
Mach2 said:
Thanks for posting brother.

USAToday, and SI are both pretty good for unbiased Phins coverage.

Damn shame our local beat writers can't say the same. TBH, I rarely read local (newspaper) writers any more.

There was a time when I read 80% of the sports sections from all three local outlets.
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Same here. The local reporters have been poor for awhile. IMO the decline happened when too many of the good ones moved on and Armando and Omar was what we were left with. Those two are right about as often as a broken clock.
 
GhostArmOfMarino said:
Most of us who aren't sold don't hate him. We just don't think his skill set translates to success in today's NFL.

If he's successful thats even better, but expecting practice to change someone's mind is silly.
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Who is "we?"

Serious question.

Because Tua, pre-injury, legitimately had some of the best "NFL-ready" traits of any college prospect in the past decade.
 
BlueFin said:
That might be a stretch…..
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It's not really a stretch...he scored very favorably in many measurables compared to other college prospects over the past several years...right up there with Andrew Luck IIRC.

Here's a bit from a CBS article that went into who stood where prior to Tua's injury:

"Based on football alone, and what these young men had put on game film, it wasn't even close as to whom were the best draftable QBs in the country. And, as we prepared for "The NFL Today" that week, with the huge LSU-Alabama game on our airwaves that weekend, I reached out to a quarter of the teams in the league -- clubs not expected to be in the QB market and with no skin in this game -- to find out which QB the evaluators and decisions makers preferred.


All answered in relatively the same way. All preferred Tua based on his years of production and potential highest-end projectability. All said they would take him over Burrow if they were looking to go QB with the first overall pick. That's where smart execs were on the issue at that time."

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So there was PLENTY talk about how NFL-read he was coming out of 'Bama, then everybody pissed their pants when he got injured. I personally had him far ahead coming out as well, until the injury, then I had him as a push with Herbert for us at 5...ONLY because of the increased risk from his hip.
 
DPhinz_DPhinz said:
No...there are Dolphins fans and there are LOLphins fans.

One group wants to see the best players on the field.

Another group wouldn't trade Tua for Watson, Aaron Rodgers, or Dan Marino. I forgot to add that these LOLphon fans would also like to see Xavien Howard traded post haste over $4 million.
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Rodgers and Marino are different; DePerv is a serial sexual predator who gets off on the power of forcing his member on unwilling women en masse. Put him in South Beach and there would be 30 more masseuses bringing charges and civil suits. Don't conflate him with those others.
 
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