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Tyler Larsen

JC said:
IDGAF how long or short someone's arms are, if they can play they can play. Unless their arms are 14 inches long.
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My dad who coached football said its not the size of the dog; its the fight in the dog.

mahmacoat said:
so arm length has no effect on how OL can play? I don't subscribe to that at all. I guess you think all the heart in the world will overcome a DT with 34 inch arms.
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Let me guess; you probably think 40 time is a great metric for talent evaluation?
 
Watching him, id say he has a terrific punch, great hand placement and a rock solid body position, which gives him nice leverage against all-comers. He handled Ansah pretty well in the BYU video using his low centre of gravity and plenty of core strength.

But he seems to lack awareness, seems to have tunnel vision so struggles in run blocking, esp at the second level. Just not a very heads up player and certainly doesn't seem to call the defense.

I don't think short arms are an issue, but id wonder about his ability to read the game and adjust.
 
This kid stood out at the senior bowl and while losing Pouncey is not good......it may give a Tyler Larsen a chance to shine.....we will see.
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BLUEFIN: i couldnt agree more. one never knows about these things. we may just end up with a great situation out of this. if larsen works at center, this not only gives us REAL depth at the center position but may free up pouncy to play guard!! albert, turner/thomas, larsen, pouncy and james would look pretty promising .
 
so struggles in run blocking, esp at the second level. Just not a very heads up player and certainly doesn't seem to call the defense.
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thats odd. the SCOUTS say that all those things you mentioned are his STRENGTHS! fast to the next level, smart, quick to read and react to whats around him, strong punch and locks on and steers players where he wants them in the run game. and the bit that was posted here has the scout saying how good his in line speed.

no flame....., just sayin'. the things the SCOUTS have said are due to them watching him in FULL games. hours of film study on him, etc... .

but, like ANY college player, we shall see how it all comes together.
 
Just saying what i see. I agree he has good feet and can steer players, though he often does so and leaves a giant hole in the a-gap for LBs to pour through. I just don't see a game reader. Technically very sound though.
 
utahphinsfan said:
Let me guess; you probably think 40 time is a great metric for talent evaluation?
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its like we had a WR who ran a 4.7 and someone said "well so-and-so runs a 4.6" and you are saying he runs a 4.7 but he fights like a dog. good luck with that

there are alot of guys who fight like dogs and some of them are bagging groceries
 
xXwarXx said:
I never took that mirroring the eages stuff seriously to begin with. I try to mirror Derek Jeters social life, but I'm still not banging models every other night. At the end of the day you can only do what you have the abilities and means to do.

Philbin wanted to run a fast paced offense when he first got here, it took two games to realize our roster couldn't do it.

One thing I'd like to dd is that I believe a HUGE part to Phillys offensive line production was due in part to there offensive system, and teams not being use to it. I don't expect that kind of production from them again. They had 3 lineman graded #1 at there position.

I'm sure there good, but there not that good. Good execution and a high pace makes everyone on offense look godly.
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dan marino sent a WHOLE BUNCH of offensive linemen to the pro bowl. a couple were the exception like dwight stephenson and richmond webb, but danny got rid of the ball so quick and could side step rushers in the pocket it made the o-line look WAY, WAY better than it was over the years.

and that being said, tannehill did his fair share of making our o-line look bad with the OPPOSITE of what marino did. tannehill holds the ball to long and cant get out of his own way to much, especially for a guy who appears to be a good athlete, not a stone wall qb.

nate newton said that the cowboys line was good but emmit smith made them look WAY better then they actually were. o-line deficiency's are much more noticeable when the skill players are not doing well.
 
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/tyler-larsen?id=2543871

Has had back surgery also for a herniated disc.


STRENGTHS Excellent size -- sheer mass to wall off. Generally holds his ground. Can sit and anchor and replace his hands. Good awareness. Consistent gun snaps. Was a rock for the Aggies, starting 51 career games.
WEAKNESSES Has short arms and struggles to sustain. Not explosive or powerful. Very average athleticism and flexibility to maneuver and torque. Limited lateral quickness to slide and recover. Too easily tossed aside and cannot recover. Slow-footed -- struggles to cut off fast flowing linebackers. Not a nasty mauler. Measured the shortest wingspan of any offensive lineman at the combine.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 4-5
BOTTOM LINE Big, experienced, wall-off zone blocker with a ceiling as a serviceble starter, though questionable versatility detracts from his appeal in a league offering few center-only spots. Has to be a masterful technician, given his short arms and pedestrian athleticism.
-Nolan Nawrocki
 
mahmacoat said:
its like we had a WR who ran a 4.7 and someone said "well so-and-so runs a 4.6" and you are saying he runs a 4.7 but he fights like a dog. good luck with that

there are alot of guys who fight like dogs and some of them are bagging groceries
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We do.

Per Roto:
Dolphins selected LSU WR Jarvis Landry with the No. 63 overall pick in the NFL draft.
Landry (5-foot-11 1/2, 205) lived in Rueben Randle and Odell Beckham's shadow before busting out as a 20-year-old junior with a team-best 77-1,193-15.5-10 stat line. He earned second-team All-SEC honors and entered the draft. Landry's stock slipped at the Combine with a 4.77 forty and 28 1/2-inch vertical, also measuring in nearly two inches shorter than his 6-foot-1 college listing. Separation isn't Landry's game, however, as he plays like Hines Ward or a smaller Anquan Boldin. He wins with toughness, huge hands (10 1/4"), and crisp routes. Landry profiles as a chain mover and red-zone weapon in the NFL. He will make incumbent slot receiver Brandon Gibson expendable sooner rather than later. May 9 - 9:28 PM
 
The kid will get tons of reps and has a golden opportunity to win a job so we shall see what he's got. I think Garner is the fall back position but they'd like to keep him as a reserve so both Larson and Shelly Smith will get plenty of playing time at center come camp and preseason.
 
I remember watching him in a tape of a Senior Bowl practice. Hageman knocked him on his butt.

Not much of an athlete. Short arms, in fact the shortest wingspan at the combine. Played at Utah State, which as I've mentioned many times is not the ideal region to find offensive linemen. It's finesse football with weakness in the trenches. Doesn't take much to stand out as an offensive linemen in that area.

At least we weren't foolish enough to fall for it in the 4th round again, like Murphy a few years ago. I'm willing to give Larsen a chance but given the combination of factors I don't like his chances.

This team needs great players. Great players. We don't even attempt it. We draft guys who were never rated as high as where they were drafted, and then we want to pretend undrafted guys are the solution. When you've got people atop the franchise who want to patch a 27 year old stadium for hundreds of millions, and brainstorm a motion sickness logo, this is naturally where you end up.

I love early excellence. You always have a chance. Everything tends to drift back to the beginning. Every simpleton lug bar stool fan can knock Michelle Wie for years, and she responds by winning the US Open. You think Tyler Larsen ever was mistaken for that type of talent? He's another chump. Why is there a 5 page thread on an undrafted chump?
 
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