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Viking Fan's Analysis of Brad Johnson's Play

chuckcole said:
For some reason though, Bollinger played pretty well against us last year. So, I'm not too keen on them benching Johnson in favor of Bollinger. Maybe Bollinger had the game of his life against us, but that game should have been a cake walk.

That reason was named Lance Schulters, who was out of work for half of this season, briefly signed by the Falcons, cut quickly, and I think he may have been signed again by them.

Lance Schulters gave up one of the easiest touchdowns in history by just outright falling to the ground when trying to cover Doug Jolly.
 
More anti-Johnson from Pacifist Viking:

"Brad Johnson's 5 TD passes do not even allow him to rank on NFL.com's list of TD pass leaders. He has started 9 games and has less TD passes than Seneca Wallace, Joey Harrington, Bruce Gradkowski, J.P Losman...well, I could carry on, but let's just say there are a lot of lousy QBs and QBs who have only played around half the games or less that have more TD passes. TD passes don't tell the whole story of a quarterback--but you still have to score points to win.

Yards per attempt is a stat that has a strong correlation to winning; Johnson is currently 23rd in the league with 6.52 yards per attempt. Now, while yards per attempt has a strong correlation to winning, I don't think it actually tells us much about how a QB is actually performing. I believe yards per completion does. Johnson is currently averaging 10.37 yards per attempt. Bruce Gradkowski is the only QB of note I could find averaging lower than that (though Jake Delhomme, at 10.8, isn't much better). Most quarterbacks, even average quarterbacks, are averaging 11 yards per completion or better. Really good QBs average 12 yards per completion or better. Donovan McNabb actually averages 14.76 yards per completion (I wish I could give better numbers, but I can't find yards per completion rankings anywhere. I guess most people don't see it as I do, so I'm sitting here with a calculator tallying things).

Worried about turnovers if you send in a young QB like Brooks Bollinger or Tarvaris Jackson? Why? Johnson has 9 interceptions (tied for 7th in the league) and 8 fumbles, 4 of them lost.

What about the team? The Vikings are currently #25 in the league in points scored, but that has been helped by four defensive touchdowns and one special teams touchdown. In fact, in 9 games the Vikings have scored 10 offensive touchdowns, and that includes TD passes from Ryan Longwell on a fake field goal and Mewelde Moore on a halfback pass. If you include the game with Longwell's TD, there have been 3 games this year when the Vikings failed to score an offensive TD.

At this point, what can it hurt? The status quo of Johnson running basic pass plays isn't working. Why not try a change, when the quarterback position is so clearly giving you such little production."
 
Yards per attempt is a stat that has a strong correlation to winning; Johnson is currently 23rd in the league with 6.52 yards per attempt. Now, while yards per attempt has a strong correlation to winning, I don't think it actually tells us much about how a QB is actually performing. I believe yards per completion does. Johnson is currently averaging 10.37 yards per attempt. Bruce Gradkowski is the only QB of note I could find averaging lower than that (though Jake Delhomme, at 10.8, isn't much better). Most quarterbacks, even average quarterbacks, are averaging 11 yards per completion or better. Really good QBs average 12 yards per completion or better. Donovan McNabb actually averages 14.76 yards per completion (I wish I could give better numbers, but I can't find yards per completion rankings anywhere. I guess most people don't see it as I do, so I'm sitting here with a calculator tallying things).




Looks like the Vikings passing game should be the easiest all year to stop.
 
I feel for the Vikes... but i dont want to take this game as some cakewalk..
I really feel for Vikes Fans.. for having to put up with Speilman
 
Wow that's a horrible pass offense. But you know, have to watch out. They have 4 touchdowns on defense. A pick 6 from Harrington could easily lose us this game. They also score with special teams and on trick plays.

Really have to watch out against them, stay disciplined.
 
ckparrothead said:
The reason Brad Johnson can't be benched is because his backups are a rookie and BROOKS BOLLINGER, lol. Ah, Spielman...how we miss thee...

If ever there was prrof positive about the stupidity of Spielman, here you have it.
 
Saying that the QB position can't get any worse than Brad Johnson is ridiculous. They aren't very used to seeing guys like Ray Lucas in Minnesota, or hugely inexperienced guys who have absolutely no clue what they are doing. QB play can always get worse than what Johnson is giving them, which is not much.
 
Sirspud said:
Saying that the QB position can't get any worse than Brad Johnson is ridiculous. They aren't very used to seeing guys like Ray Lucas in Minnesota, or hugely inexperienced guys who have absolutely no clue what they are doing. QB play can always get worse than what Johnson is giving them, which is not much.

Yeah but from an objective point of view it does seem like it can't get much worse.

9 interceptions and 4 lost fumbles in 9 games is not the mark of an effective game manager. They might consider putting in a different QB. Objectively speaking, setting aside the fact that I think Brooks Bollinger is crap, if they've got a guy on the roster like Bollinger that they gave a new contract to...they really ought to conisder putting him in there.

I mean in the end I feel even BJ in his current form is better than Bollinger...but obviously they shouldn't be thinking that way otherwise they'd never have given Bollinger any money.
 
cnc66 said:
if we come out flat we will lose...we have NO MORE room for self induced screw ups.

Exactly and this is what I was worried about but ya know that article about the players going out there to win this one for Daunte gives me hope that they feel like they're playing for something...not just heading out there to continue a win streak that they think is automatically going to continue itself.
 
ckparrothead said:
Yeah but from an objective point of view it does seem like it can't get much worse.

9 interceptions and 4 lost fumbles in 9 games is not the mark of an effective game manager. They might consider putting in a different QB. Objectively speaking, setting aside the fact that I think Brooks Bollinger is crap, if they've got a guy on the roster like Bollinger that they gave a new contract to...they really ought to conisder putting him in there.

I mean in the end I feel even BJ in his current form is better than Bollinger...but obviously they shouldn't be thinking that way otherwise they'd never have given Bollinger any money.

I totally agree Brooks Bollinger is crap. I think the biggest problem is no the fact that Brook is a quarterback, is that he is their 2nd string quarterback. That is just inexcusable.
 
Only reason they have Brad Johnson starting is because usually he manages games well and leads the team to wins like last year. Which was the opposite of the horrible performance by Culpepper last year that essentially let to his trade.

I'm not really concerned about their passing game regardless of who's QB. The main concern is their ballhawk D and running game.
 
Gardenhead said:
Here is a little essay from the Viking Blog Pacifist Viking: http://pacifistviking.blogspot.com/

In Casablanca, when a woman asks Rick what kind of man the sleazy cop is, Rick replies, "He's like any man, only moreso." When it comes to calling for starting QBs to be benched, Viking fans are like any football fans, only moreso. But as Dick Vermeil would say, "They're right sometimes. More often than not, they're right."

In the last three weeks, the Vikings have gone 0-3 and scored 20 offensive points. Their quarterback has committed 8 turnovers in those three games.

Isn't that a serious problem in production?

The big defense of playing Brad Johnson is that he's a "smart veteran," that he "manages a game," that he "doesn't make stupid mistakes," that he "gives you a chance to win." But right now, Johnson isn't any of those things. He is an immobile quarterback without a strong arm, and he's committing turnovers. The offense is showing no creativity, and that's a problem too; however, Johnson just doesn't have the ability to make plays.

There's no reason to think of QB as a sacred position; benching a QB does not signal a cosmic shift. Players at other positions get benched, sometimes just for a few series. In the 40s, the Rams actually played two quarterbacks every game; future HOFer Bob Waterfield played the 1st and 3rd quarter, and future HOFer Norm VanBrocklin played the 2nd and 4th quarter. A quarterback can be benched, and when that quarterback is giving your team little production, lacks the skills to help your team, and is actually committing errors that hurt your team, he should be benched.

Whether you want to replace Brad Johnson with Brooks Bollinger or Tarvaris Jackson depends on your view of all sorts of things. But either would be better than Johnson right now.

Brad Johnson has reverted to Daunte Culpepper form the last few weeks and just like when Daunte was there Minny is now losing.
 
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