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We are better Team than Buffalo now and going forward.

tay0365 said:
Josh has a better Arm, but Tua is more precise, accurate.

Josh is bigger which takes a bit more effort to get him down, but Tua has a quicker release to make it tougher on teams to get to him before delivering the ball.

Josh being taller can get the ball out easier, but Tua having better anticipation allows him to better put the ball in places to help receivers that are in tight coverage still get the ball.

Josh can run well for a man his size, but Tua has a suddenness to him when he takes off that makes defensive players look really bad when trying to get him.

I will say though Tua was a better QB in his 1st two years than Josh's 1st two years. We will see how year 3 compares...Though right now he is higher rated then 5th year Josh.
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Oh man. Tua has the suddenness to make defensive players look really bad…..Josh doesn’t? You must’ve missed the last 8 times the dolphins played the bills. You could put together a 5 minute highlight tape of Josh schooling dolphin defenders and making them look worse than really bad.

Josh runs well for a man of any size. When comparing Josh and Tua and you’re trying to make a case for Tua- leave out the mobility aspect of their games- Tua is better at nothing in terms of running/mobility
 
This ain't the last 8 games and we won 1 this year and got beat by 3 Saturday. No Shame in that or fans feeling optimistic about the future. . As far as bills fans and the Bills they can go pound sand in their own forum.
 
BrowardDolfan said:
If you say so my man. I can't wait to see Miami make a deep playoff run and NOT be an underdog by more than 3 points for homefield at Buffalo, KC, or Cincinnati - being that the Dolphins are on the same level as them. Of course, how did the Dolphins lose 6 games to not be in position to begin with is another headscratcher, being they are at that level already. :cool:
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Well, if the Bills lost Allen for 2 and 3/4 games, it would be more clear, but maybe not too much, because unlike us, who have either bad luck or bad play with our backup QBs, I am sure the Bills would weather the storm better then we did when Tua went down.
 
Etuoo33 said:
We are not better than the Bills. They have beaten Us, Chiefs, Titans, NE 2 times, Jests, Packers and Ravens. The best thing that could happen, IMO, to this team is to advance to playoffs and lost to Bills who go on to win the Big One. The game Sayurday was within our reach and we failed. You have to win some games that your not supposed to, even when outplayed. Tua is nice but no way better than Allen. Green Bay first. This team is young enough to be around for a few years but lacks seasoning as does McD, who I expect to grow a lot over the off season. WE could win the Big One but we won't this year.
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They also lost to the Jets and Vikings while their starting QB was playing, almost lost to the Lions with their starting QB still there, and were a few bad calls in favor of the Bills being swept by the Dolphins.

Dolphins don't lose Tua for about three games, and right now Miami is in 1st place.
 
Carwell Gardner said:
Oh man. Tua has the suddenness to make defensive players look really bad…..Josh doesn’t? You must’ve missed the last 8 times the dolphins played the bills. You could put together a 5 minute highlight tape of Josh schooling dolphin defenders and making them look worse than really bad.

Josh runs well for a man of any size. When comparing Josh and Tua and you’re trying to make a case for Tua- leave out the mobility aspect of their games- Tua is better at nothing in terms of running/mobility
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Josh is more fast and with a big body. More times then not, when Josh tries what Tua can easily do, he gets hit, or caught.

Here is Tua...


While Josh is more power and speed then having sudden change of direction.
 
tay0365 said:
Josh is more fast and with a big body. More times then not, when Josh tries what Tua can easily do, he gets hit, or caught.

Here is Tua...


While Josh is more power and speed then having sudden change of direction.
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Stop it. Josh plants his foot and jukes better than 50% of nfl RBs- he regularly makes defenders miss in the open field, in the backfield and on the goalline. There is nothing Tua can do better than Josh in the mobility department.
 
The debate is about which team is better, now and for the foreseeable future, not about which QB is better.

As for the, QB comparison it's a draw. Both QB's have elite traits, but, also have some warts in their game.

As for the current status, the Bills appear to have the better coaching, better defense and better overall offense. As for Miami, they appear to have the edge at WR.

It could be said once Miami's offense improves in the run game and becomes more diverse, they'll become the better offensive team. But that's not currently the case.

Miami has a long way to go to match the Bills defensively and in the coaching corner.
 
Carwell Gardner said:
Stop it. Josh plants his foot and jukes better than 50% of nfl RBs- he regularly makes defenders miss in the open field, in the backfield and on the goalline. There is nothing Tua can do better than Josh in the mobility department.
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You keep telling yourself that. 🤣
 
emoticon said:
I'll be honest...I don't watch a lot of non-dolphins games. But I was watching the Titans/Chargers game yesterday and was pretty shocked by how pedestrian Herbert looked after he looked like an all pro the week before against the Dolphins.
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That’s why I say it isn’t linear. And fans should really avoid that trap. Matchups matter. Little nuances from week to week. Injuries just so much goes into a football game
 
tay0365 said:
Tua plays and finishes the three games he missed, Miami is probably 11-3 right now.

Miami ties the Bills, they still take 1st place because of the tie breaker.

Miami is the #1 position right now.

All respect to the Bills, they are legitimately the team to beat right now, but let's not act like if both teams were at full strength, the Bills would be the better team.

If both teams meet in the playoffs, because of homefield, you have to favor the Bills, but I would not feel very confident if I was a Bills fan.
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I am a Bills fan. I am feeling pretty confident. We are locked into the playoffs. Lock to win the AFCE. And currently sitting at 1 seed in the AFC. With one of the top point differential teams in the league. With three weeks to go. Yep feeling pretty confident
 
AMakados10 said:
Capable? Sure, but it’s not fair to proclaim Tua’s injury cost us 3 games considering we just lost 3 games with Tua.

Other playoff teams have had backups come in and win games like 49ers, Cowboys, and the Ravens that are currently sitting pretty as the 5th seed playing AFC South.
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Fair point. For some reason we couldn’t win a game without Tua last year either and it costs us the playoffs. Teddy and Skylar were horrific in the games they played yet those 3 games were winnable until late in the game. At least very least, we would go 2-1 in those games with our pro bowl qb
 
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