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We got a DB

I hope we have a little bit more of a move in us. I don't want to give away a ton of draft capital but if you gave a 1 for Roquan Smith or a 2 for Bradley Chubb what would you get in the draft that could better that? Chris Grier is doing better but his drafting is still suspect.
 
I would mention we should trade MG for a corner but I got roasted by everyone last time I made a post about it a month ago. Now the same slugs think it’s a good idea now. 😂 go figure, this forum 😂
 
*PFF warning for those adverse to it*

FWIW….played a decent amount in 2019. Did not grade well —43.7. Played less in 2020 but graded out better when he was in — 59.6. Basically top end would be in adequate backup. But with our injuries, that’s necessary.
 
Feverdream said:
Trading Gesicki has to net you a third-round pick or higher... or you don't make the trade.

Because that is what he will net us in the comp formula.
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Only if we don’t spend in the initial phase of free agency. If we spend, there is an offsetting formula. We have to be net talent losers to get a draft pick.
 
Feverdream said:
Trading Gesicki has to net you a third-round pick or higher... or you don't make the trade.

Because that is what he will net us in the comp formula.
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What's the formula? Gesicki + Hurdle Defender = 0

And he looks exactly like Blake Ferguson, so I assume his 4 games a year where he isn't invisible, is in fact Blake Ferguson playing TE.
 
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Feverdream said:
Trading Gesicki has to net you a third-round pick or higher... or you don't make the trade.

Because that is what he will net us in the comp formula.
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Fever you are one of the few on this site that understands the cap and the long-term vision of how to manage a roster.
 
laxcoach said:
Only if we don’t spend in the initial phase of free agency. If we spend, there is an offsetting formula. We have to be net talent losers to get a draft pick.
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You sign a player with the same expectations...

In other words... Gesicki leaves, signing a huge deal with a team who will use him as a slot TE... we see the contract and know we are due a 3rd round pick.
Then... when we think about signing a player, we KNOW that if we sign that FA, we lose the extra third.
It's a hidden cost, but SMART GMs understand the hidden costs... and make use if that.

So Gesicki's value is defined.
 
Feverdream said:
You sign a player with the same expectations...

In other words... Gesicki leaves, signing a huge deal with a team who will use him as a slot TE... we see the contract and know we are due a 3rd round pick.
Then... when we think about signing a player, we KNOW that if we sign that FA, we lose the extra third.
It's a hidden cost, but SMART GMs understand the hidden costs... and make use if that.

So Gesicki's value is defined.
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Another thing you actually have to look at though is. we wont get his potential 3rd round comp pick until 2024. I don't see us big spenders since we have a lot to handle on our own team. Most people say that a 4th in current year is worth a 3rd in the following (with the trading of pick scenarios) .

I've been saying all along, if the team looks like a playoff team, I'm not trading him midseason unless its for a day one starter at another position. If we didn't look like a playoff caliber team then i wanted at least a 3rd rounder since that'd be what we get as comp. The trade chart would probably show that Denvers 4th rounder is probably equal to a random 3rd rounder in 2024.

So yeah if you're patient then hold out for the comp pick if you cant get a 3rd, but value chart would show a top of the order 4th in next year would be of same value.

Me personally, i think we are contenders and want Mike G on the team or a quality starter in return
 
Feverdream said:
Making a move for a Smith or a Chubb would be cap nightmare, and a baaaad rental.

Not just no... Hell no.
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Why? Both would be young building blocks not rentals, a player over 30 with wear and tear I get but you don't trade for a Roquan Smith to get him for a yr. We can definitely cut some fat to accomodate one of these guys. So Hell Yes, bring them on. We won't have a Geisicki or Byron Jones next yr to name a couple of cap savings moves.
 
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