We should only carry two QB's

[roy_miami]

IMO, You carry a third only if your third has more value than the guy you cut in his stead.

Ding ding ding.

Like the Patriots aren't about to cut Mallett or that kid they drafted in the second round for example. You can debate whether you'd rather have a career backup in Moore or a young QB with potential to be great but to keep 3 QBs on the roster just because is not even debatable when you can just as easily sign guys off the street like the Packers did last year with Flynn. For sure keep someone on the practice squad. And try to give your emergency 3rd QB some practice reps at QB, like I think Daniel Thomas played QB once upon a time and I'm sure we have a few others too that can sling it, even Billy Turner can throw it like 70 yards.

 

[marinotoclayton]

Ding ding ding.

Like the Patriots aren't about to cut Mallett or that kid they drafted in the second round for example. You can debate whether you'd rather have a career backup in Moore or a young QB with potential to be great but to keep 3 QBs on the roster just because is not even debatable when you can just as easily sign guys off the street like the Packers did last year with Flynn. For sure keep someone on the practice squad. And try to give your emergency 3rd QB some practice reps at QB, like I think Daniel Thomas played QB once upon a time and I'm sure we have a few others too that can sling it, even Billy Turner can throw it like 70 yards.

The packers signing Flynn was no big deal because he had already been a Packer before! Add to it he already was familiar with their system! He was pretty much a no-brainer! And having the 3rd string qb still is better than having some wide. Receiver that may not make the field much! As it is you only jave so many guys who. Are listed as eligible to play on game day! If the oline is bad like last two years we could be on 3rd guy fast! As it is we will have Pouncey gone who is an important part of the line!

 

[WVDolphan]

Well back in 93' we had Marino go down who was followed by Mitchell which left us with an unknown unproven player for at least a week then we had I believe it was Deberg! For a couple until Mitchell got healthy!

And you want this for what a roster spot for some WR who may not be anything anyways! No thanks! I would rather keep the insurance and keep the 3rd QB!

I do not believe that DeBerg was on the roster when the season started. Not many teams are willing to pay an old vet like that the league minimum to be a 3rd string QB.

If you get down to your 3rd string QB you are screwed anyway. Your options at that point are to go out and sign a veteran like DeBerg who does not have a job. If you are staring at a 4 game stretch where you have to start Devlin then you are calling a player like Kyle Orton(did someone sign him?) anyway......that is if your team is still in contention for anything.

For that reason I like the idea of only keeping 2 QBs. It allows another roster spot for some of this talent we have at WR. If we run a lot of 4 WR sets we will need 6 good WRs on the roster in case two of them get injured. I think we have 7 worth keeping tbh.

Btw, I was at the game that Steve DeBerg lead the phins to victory over the Patriots. Don Shula had just recorded win #325 to break the record the previous week in Philadelphia. If you will recall the Phins were down to their 3rd string QB to finish that game. The Phins had a lead and were basically able to "hold on" as almost every play in the 2nd half was a run. The Phins immediately signed DeBerg after that game. DeBerg started THE VERY NEXT GAME and lead the phins to a W. He also won the game after that which was the memorable Thanksgiving game vs. Dallas. So he recorded 2 Ws in a matter of 4 days when he was just brought in off the street. Unfortunately, that was the last W of the season for the Phins that year.

But, the point is that few teams roll with their 3rd stringer as a starter if they are faced with having to do so for any amount of time beyond 1 week. I believe there were a couple of teams last year who faced similar situations and picked up a vet off the street last season. The Phins can keep just 2 QBs and if one of them gets injured they can go sign a veteran to be the backup for however long they need him to be.

There are 2 scenarios in which I keep a 3rd string QB........
1) I have a young player who I feel like I might be able to develop into a good starter one day
2) Im willing to start him if my top 2 QBs get injured

Does Devlin fit either of those 2 criteria? If he does not, then there is no point in keeping him. He has been here several years now. I would hope that Philbin would know by now if Devlin has starter potential in the future. Personally I think if Devlin were actually any good he would at least be the backup by now. The fact that we kept Moore tells me Devlin is not good and is not becoming good. I do not see the point in keeping him on the final roster.

 

[Zounds]

You don't carry 3 QBs as a contingency plan for injuries. You carry 3 QBs so your team can practice better. Anyone seen a Philbin practice? You need 3 QBs period or everyone doesn't get the reps they need. Its about practice, not actually playing in games.

 

[hoops]

with the way the protection is going i doubt miami can afford to carry only 2 qbs...

 

[roy_miami]

You don't carry 3 QBs as a contingency plan for injuries. You carry 3 QBs so your team can practice better. Anyone seen a Philbin practice? You need 3 QBs period or everyone doesn't get the reps they need. Its about practice, not actually playing in games.

I'm not sure about the rules but are practice squad guys able to fill this role?

 

[flynryan15]

If we get to the point of playing Delvin more then 1 game the season is done. Mainly because the line is worse then we thought! And QBs are dropping like flies so at that point it's all about a better draft pick. Drop the qb add a player that has a chance of seeing the field.

 

[hoops]

once the season starts your backup qb barely gets a sniff reps wise in practice let alone the 3rd string...

 

[Zounds]

I'm not sure about the rules but are practice squad guys able to fill this role?

If a player has 1 accrued season in the NFL, he cannot be a practice squad player. Pat Deviln could not be on the practice squad. Also, you want your 3rd QB to actually know your system and be able to take reps, not just be camp fodder.

 

[phinfan40353]

I've always believed I would rather have a 3rd QB who's very familiar with the offense and the playbook as I would any QB off the street.

While knowing the playbook and offense brings his physical or skill deficiencies quicker to the surface, he does know the players around him, has played with them and vice versa. They know his weaknesses and have some experience with them.

I don't see QB3 as insurance to QB1. I see QB3 as insurance to QB2. The week AFTER QB1 goes down you are perilously thin and inexperienced at QB. You're whole team cringes and starts to play to protect QB2 if you only have 2 QBs on your roster when QB1 goes down.

QB3 gives you one more knowledgeable insurance policy to help keep open the playbook for QB2. He's also a familiar voice and sounding board for QB2 as each's role shifts. And he buys you time to find a QB3 on the street and feed him the playbook.

I'd never want to go into a week with QB2 starting and a guy who has never been on the team as my backup.

 

[hoops]

I've always believed I would rather have a 3rd QB who's very familiar with the offense and the playbook as I would any QB off the street.

While knowing the playbook and offense brings his physical or skill deficiencies quicker to the surface, he does know the players around him, has played with them and vice versa. They know his weaknesses and have some experience with them.

I don't see QB3 as insurance to QB1. I see QB3 as insurance to QB2. The week AFTER QB1 goes down you are perilously thin and inexperienced at QB. You're whole team cringes and starts to play to protect QB2 if you only have 2 QBs on your roster when QB1 goes down.

QB3 gives you one more knowledgeable insurance policy to help keep open the playbook for QB2. He's also a familiar voice and sounding board for QB2 as each's role shifts. And he buys you time to find a QB3 on the street and feed him the playbook.

I'd never want to go into a week with QB2 starting and a guy who has never been on the team as my backup.

you seem like a guy smart enough to understand that if qb1 goes down for any extended period of time this teams done anyways

 

[Bumpus]

with the way the protection is going i doubt miami can afford to carry only 2 qbs...

Pretty much how I see it too.

 

[MRojas4]

If this team believes Devlin will take over the #2 spot after Moore contract expires then keep him.

If we are keeping Devlin just so it looks nice on the depth chart to have 3 QB's then cut him.

I would rather carry a extra TE/WR/DT, etc. to develop rather than waste a roster spot on a QB who will likely never see game time and would get zero practice snaps. In the rare instance that both Tannehill and Moore go down in a SINGLE game, the game would be lost anyways, and a veteran QB would be signed imediatly leading to Devlin getting cut anyways.

Much rather carry say...... Johnson DT out of LSU to develop on the 53 than risk him getting snatched off the PS than keep Devlin if he is NOT the future #2.

 

[hoops]

i'd cut moore and keep devlin if it was me...doesnt matter who plays 2nd string wise tanny goes down we done...i'd roll that cap savings on moores contract to 2015...but that's just me...plus if something does happen to tannehill at least we get a look at devlin to know going forward if he has any future...

protection doesnt play better backup qb whoever it is is playing this year...tannehills not he man

is a 6th wr like binns or williams worth more to me ehhh...i'm sure i can find either of those guys on the street if i needed to down the road...something miami must consider...binns might get picked up but i kinda doubt it...williams could leave tomorrow off what i know of his wr work and i wouldn't give a rip

 

[roy_miami]

i'd cut moore and keep devlin if it was me...doesnt matter who plays 2nd string wise tanny goes down we done...i'd roll that cap savings on moores contract to 2015...but that's just me...plus if something does happen to tannehill at least we get a look at devlin to know going forward if he has any future...

protection doesnt play better backup qb whoever it is is playing this year...tannehills not he man

is a 6th wr like binns or williams worth more to me ehhh...i'm sure i can find either of those guys on the street if i needed to down the road...something miami must consider...binns might get picked up but i kinda doubt it...williams could leave tomorrow off what i know of his wr work and i wouldn't give a rip

The way his contract was structured I still can't believe Moore was ever in the plans for year two. This may be a crazy theory with no basis in reality but it made perfect sense to me that we would try to trade Moore if the opportunity presented itself last year before the deadline. It was a win-win for Moore and us, Moore was guaranteed to go to a team that needed a starter and we would get some compensation for him. If that wasn't the plan then we should make it the plan and restructure right now, and promise Moore that we'll trade him if a team needs a starter.

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