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Near sideline he looks fine but hash to far sideline he looks average to below average.

Haven’t noticed that. I’m so mesmerized by the placement and accuracy maybe.

Something I will look for.

On another note supposedly tua lost 15 lbs. not sure how that’s a plus for nfl contact.
 

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Ken Stabler was successful along with Mark Brunell, no one would call their mechanics textbook tho.

That level placement in a first year starter has to translate. Tight window throws he’s really high level

His movement skills in the pocket I think are underrated too
 
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It doesn't matter if you don't have a competent drafting G.M. MIA didn't tank for years yet time after time they passed on potential franchise QBs whether that was in the first round or later. Grier was instrumental in that btw. Somehow we ended up with the best QB prospect since Marino yet people are already longing for 2020 and 2021 QB prospects. None of the QBs next season are much better prospects than Rosen, even Fromm who I think is the best of the bunch. Lawrence is though. I can see a scenario where whoever is behind this awful line struggles mightily, they win too many games to get any of the supposed top guys in next year's draft and they fire everyone and tank for Lawrence in 2020. And if they somehow land Lawrence it'd be worth it too. But let's support Rosen before we bother worrying about that. Do you think Jets, Bills, and Browns fans are thinking about Lawrence? I mean, they all have similarly talented young QBs as Rosen. Of course not. They're all geeked that they drafted a potential franchise QB and want to see how it unfolds. Just because we didn't draft Rosen does not mean he's suddenly not the potential guy or still someone to get excited about.
 

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Haven’t noticed that. I’m so mesmerized by the placement and accuracy maybe.

Something I will look for.

On another note supposedly tua lost 15 lbs. not sure how that’s a plus for nfl contact.
Some ppl compare him to Drew Brees as far as placement and accuracy goes and I don't disagree.( he's almost guaranteed the no 1 pick)

On a side note Rosen's timing and accuracy looked better than what I saw in Arizona, small sample size tho.
 

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Let's see how the NCAA season plays out this year, then Ill make a decision.

Gonna be some fun saturdays this year.
Yeah my productivity, which already sucks, is going to be near zero on the weekends this year.
 

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Think Awsi mentioned it months ago, but my biggest concern for Lawrence is that he doesn't protect himself well and takes a lot of bad hits. With his frame, that's an area he'll need to improve to survive. He's an excellent, excellent QB prospect, but none of his numerous strengths will matter if he's on the sideline.

I don't particularly trust Dabo to emphasize this as an area of concern - given the way he handled Watson - but Lawrence has time to correct it on his own. If he's still putting himself in harm's way at a similar rate going into the 2021 Draft, I'd be concerned.
 

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Think Awsi mentioned it months ago, but my biggest concern for Lawrence is that he doesn't protect himself well and takes a lot of bad hits. With his frame, that's an area he'll need to improve to survive. He's an excellent, excellent QB prospect, but none of his numerous strengths will matter if he's on the sideline.

I don't particularly trust Dabo to emphasize this as an area of concern - given the way he handled Watson - but Lawrence has time to correct it on his own. If he's still putting himself in harm's way at a similar rate going into the 2021 Draft, I'd be concerned.
I read somewhere that Lawrence is going to be doing a lot more running this year than last. If that’s the case, that’d worry me about him protecting himself.
 

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No QB is going to save this team. This team will remain a **** show until we stop looking for one player as the answer when there 53 other guys on the team.
Nothing changes the fortunes of a franchise faster then finding a franchise QB. Plain and simple. If you have a franchise QB your Super Bowl window opens and stays open for as long as he is there.
 

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We have needed a franchise QB for a long long time. Not that I'm glad we are bad enough to possibly get the first pick in the draft but I think that is the only way (other than trading away many picks with future 1st round picks) to get a top QB that will be with us for the next 15 years.

I feel that we are bad 1 year too early with Trevor Lawrence coming out in 2021. Maybe I'm crazy but im not 100% sure that Tua will be who we think want him to be.

I wish there was a loophole in the system that allowed us to draft Trevor Lawrence if we happened to pick first.
Geez, I fell asleep and must have missed the 2019 season.....what was our record and who are we drafting......
 

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It doesn't matter if you don't have a competent drafting G.M. MIA didn't tank for years yet time after time they passed on potential franchise QBs whether that was in the first round or later. Grier was instrumental in that btw. Somehow we ended up with the best QB prospect since Marino yet people are already longing for 2020 and 2021 QB prospects. None of the QBs next season are much better prospects than Rosen, even Fromm who I think is the best of the bunch. Lawrence is though. I can see a scenario where whoever is behind this awful line struggles mightily, they win too many games to get any of the supposed top guys in next year's draft and they fire everyone and tank for Lawrence in 2020. And if they somehow land Lawrence it'd be worth it too. But let's support Rosen before we bother worrying about that. Do you think Jets, Bills, and Browns fans are thinking about Lawrence? I mean, they all have similarly talented young QBs as Rosen. Of course not. They're all geeked that they drafted a potential franchise QB and want to see how it unfolds. Just because we didn't draft Rosen does not mean he's suddenly not the potential guy or still someone to get excited about.
The difference is, all of those other QB's flashed more than Rosen has, and their teams didn't trade them away only one year after drafting them in the top ten the year before. Rosen is no longer only a college prospect. He now has a body of work in the NFL, albeit a short body of work, and it has been less than stellar.
 

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Trevor obviously has the goods but gods truth I'm exhausted by peoples' constant oohing and aahing and even hoping for us to suck bad enough to get him.

I think here are multiple franchise QBs coming out in this next year's class, and we'll likely be drafting one.
 

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I think both Tua and Lawrence get exposed this year. Herbert too. Herbert is the most overrated out of the 3. Tua and Lawrence have great systems around them. All of their stats are inflated.
 
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