We will always leave points on the field with Tannehill....
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BGtoKNfor6
Where is the reset button?
Also if your passes are getting batted down,something that has plagued Tannehill his entire career, wouldn't you attempt some pump fakes to opem the throwing lanes?
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All I'm saying is even though rivers is good it takes an entire team to win...and our whole team played poorly today. We had no pressure on d, couldn't make big stops, couldn't move the ball on the ground or in the air, o line was getting pus h ed back and of course special teams was atrocious.
No you are a tannehill hater before you are a dolphin "fan." Your post history verifies that. If you at least would admit that, it would be one thing. However you continue to hide from the Truth in an attempt to gain credibility and it's just sad.
BGtoKNfor6
Where is the reset button?
Why? Apparently team records is solely predicated on the qb. Apparently Tannehill and Rivers have identical abilities because of their records....
The entire route tree is the reason why people wanted to run Pennington out of town even as he was earning a playoff berth for the first time in 7 years. What's sad is that since him we've had two "qb of the future" guys have significant starting stints without showing the ability to throw every route out there, while the one guy between them who saw significant time but wasn't a QB of the future candidate seemed to have the ability to throw a greater variety of throws than either QB but was cast aside. Even Pennington seemed to be able to throw a greater number of routes despite his arm strength being laughable.
I thought the reason why Joe Philbin manufactured a mockery of a QB competition and handed the job to Tannehill after leading the only successful drive of preseason was because he could throw routes that Matt Moore couldn't. Three years in and I flat out still haven't seen that. I thought the reason you bench a guy who was only 28 (young in QB years) for a rookie was because that rookie was going to be able to execute throws that he couldn't. Everytime Tannehill craps the bed in an entire half, and it happens way too often, I can't help but wonder what the team would be doing with a guy like Moore who could take the top off a defense and also has good touch on throws that Tannehill can't execute.
I hated those who were anti-Pennington but they were right in that if you can't throw a full route tree, your limitations will be exposed often enough to keep you from real consistent success in this league. A guy like Phillip Rivers will have some times where he doesn't achieve success, but at least its not because of some innate limitation in his ability that means he is always going to fail at a certain type of throw. In the end, Phillip Rivers has multiple playoff berths and is a winning NFL QB, while Tannehill is a losing NFL QB.
BGtoKNfor6
Where is the reset button?
For the record I WAS a big Tannehill supporter. As a dolphin i will support him but no longer see him as a viable long term qb for this franchise. Too many glaring weaknesses namely pocket awareness and accuracy over 30+ games that has culminated in my decision. Just my opinion.
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Lauren, is that you?
I hated Henne, I hated Jamar Fletcher, I hated Travis Daniels, I hated Chris Crocker, I hated Jason Allen, I hated Ted Ginn... I don't hate Tannehill yet, but I am highly critical of him and don't trust that he will be a Dolphin for long...how about you watch the games and tell me if he will be our quarterback in 2 years... use your mind and your eyes to see...
It takes an entire team to win, but no position in sports has a greater effect on his team's ability to win than a QB, and it's been proven time and time again that a good QB has the ability to make his team win more often than not, and instead of having the talent of the guys around him hold him back, he elevates the level of guys around him. Sure, there are going to be individual games where that doesn't happen, but with a large enough sample size the record will clearly show the QB's talent level.
Yawn.....this stuff gets old.
Some fans like Tannehill some don't...we get it. Tannehill is the QB of this team and that doesn't look like it is going to change anytime soon.
For me, I'm not writing him or the season off after two games. I didn't like what I saw in the first half last week but really liked his play in the 2nd half against the pats. This week, not very good. Still a long way to go and we are in the thick of it at 1-1.
And don't give me the Tannehill homer BS.......there is no reason to panic or not think that we will continue to improve.
Some fans like Tannehill some don't...we get it. Tannehill is the QB of this team and that doesn't look like it is going to change anytime soon.
For me, I'm not writing him or the season off after two games. I didn't like what I saw in the first half last week but really liked his play in the 2nd half against the pats. This week, not very good. Still a long way to go and we are in the thick of it at 1-1.
And don't give me the Tannehill homer BS.......there is no reason to panic or not think that we will continue to improve.
BGtoKNfor6
Where is the reset button?
Tannehill was a step in the right direction over Henne for sure but it's another example of a desperate franchise trying to appesse the fan base and owner to ger someone in here and try again. I'm sick of this ****. At this point I would trade 2 number one draft picks for the next best qb prospect who is projected to have NFL success. I am tired of retreads and reaches at qb. While the qb position is a crap.shoot, the overwhelmng evidence is there that suggests a qb drafted in top 10 ( Tannehill at 7 was a reach big time and we all know that) is where it is at.
Heh. Twisted logic being applied in this thread. But even if we were using that as a measure of ability, when is Tannehill going to lead his team to 13 and 14 win seasons because Rivers has done that and has a substantially higher career winning pct. Aside from team success, individual statistical success, eyeball tests, I don't understand how this even comes into the conversation. Poor seasons and poor games can be aberrational as long as there are prior examples of success. Tannehill's never shown the level of ability and success Rivers did very early in his career.
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If he can't do basic things like lead open receivers, then it certainly needs to change soon. And I've been on the Tannehill bandwagon since his first preseason. You're right that it's still too early to say he's done or that he's hopeless. But until he shows some improvement (relatively soon) may as well start thinking of plan B.
BGtoKNfor6
Where is the reset button?
My issue lies in the fsct that his accuracy over 30 games has never gotten better especially on high school caliber routes besides the deep ball. That is downright scary in the NFL where you have only a few shots a game that are presented to you. Other than the td pass to Miller in week 1, every one of Tannehills td passes have been scary while he could of had 2 today that would be considered routine to the rest of the NFL (missed pass to gibsn amd miss to miller in the flat).