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Wells Report on Dolphins' Incognito-Martin fiasco ignored by several AFC coaches

datruth55 said:
I guess Harbaugh better read it. Might want to make it required reading for that whole locker room.
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That might be necessary if Harbaugh thought his locker room was as dysfunctional as Miami's was last year but that may not be the case.
 
NFL coaches are alpha-males. They relate more to Lugnut than to Ratfink. Whether they read it or not, they know the reality of the situation ... they've been around it all their lives.
 
Whether or not they admit it the smart ones read it and have thought about the ramifications to their own team. The rest are either too stupid or have problems with polysyllables.
 
JTC111 said:
You're setting up a false choice. Add in a third choice, "neither," and that's probably what most would choose, as is evidenced by the lack of interest in Incognito and the deal worked out for Martin in which San Fran is totally protected. Neither of these guys deserves to be propped up by anyone.

And whether a coach has or hasn't read the Wells report is meaningless. The report doesn't bind them in any way nor does not reading it absolve them of any wrong doing should they get called out on something similar. When the league issues new rules, all teams will have to abide by them whether anyone in their front office has read the report or not.
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Either/or is not a false choice.

I think they would take RI too, over Martin. The lack of interest in RI stems from the publicity backlash,
and that's it.

I agree with you about the rules. It doesn't matter if you've read the report or not,
you're still bound by the rules the NFL will establish/has established. That's why I take these guys
at their word. What reason do they have for reading the report? None. It's just a waste of time to guys
that never seem to have enough of that.
 
Greydolfin said:
Whether or not they admit it the smart ones read it and have thought about the ramifications to their own team. The rest are either too stupid or have problems with polysyllables.
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Why would they read it?

There's no reason on earth for them to read it. They know what the rules are, and they know what the reality is.
They now have a precident for what may happen. There's really nothing else they need to know.
 
GoonBoss said:
Why would they read it?

There's no reason on earth for them to read it. They know what the rules are, and they know what the reality is.
They now have a precident for what may happen. There's really nothing else they need to know.
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I would suspect that any 'intelligent' head coach would want to read it just out of curiosity alone just to know the background details as it is something that is impacting another team, coach and players in their own field of business.

If there was a jailbreak or a riot in a prison wouldn't you be interested in the detail and read a report on the matter?

Anyway, even if the smarter coaches have not read it (and that I don't believe for a minute) you can be sure all the team owners and Goodell have read it in great detail.
 
GoonBoss said:
Either/or is not a false choice.

I think they would take RI too, over Martin. The lack of interest in RI stems from the publicity backlash,
and that's it.
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Of course it is, and here's why... suppose you polled all NFL coaches and put to them this question: "If you had to choose between RI and JM, who would you take on your team?" Let's assume, as has been asserted here, the vote overwhelmingly favors RI. That gives the false impression that there are many teams that would put RI on their roster; however, that impression isn't reality. It's a false reality created by the question. By including "neither" as a choice, you come to a more realistic and honest assessment of where both of these players stand, and I suspect very few teams would want either.

The truth is that neither of these guys were left with many options. JM was traded in a deal that cannot hurt SF no matter the outcome. If he makes the roster, they get a backup tackle for a 7th round pick ...something any GM would take any day. If JM doesn't make the roster, SF loses nothing. RI is sitting on his ass hoping he can twitter his was to convincing people he's rehabilitated himself in some way, but his football history is what it is, long and ugly. Nebraska, Oregon, St. Louis, Buffalo, and now Miami ...he's made himself unwelcome and unwanted at every stop. At this point, his options are just as few as was JM's.

I'd rather have thyroid cancer than lung cancer, but that doesn't mean I want to have thyroid cancer. If you say I have to pick either/or, myself and probably every other person I know would take the former. But not a one of them would actually want either.
 
GoonBoss said:
I don't think so.

He's like a baby running back to the teat. Harbaugh's covering for one of his guys.
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I wonder if the players will look at Harbaugh in a different light bringing in a whiny little snitch..hmmmm JM is a Job killer.. Just ask the coaches in Miami..
 
JTC111 said:
Of course it is, and here's why... suppose you polled all NFL coaches and put to them this question: "If you had to choose between RI and JM, who would you take on your team?" Let's assume, as has been asserted here, the vote overwhelmingly favors RI. That gives the false impression that there are many teams that would put RI on their roster; however, that impression isn't reality. It's a false reality created by the question. By including "neither" as a choice, you come to a more realistic and honest assessment of where both of these players stand, and I suspect very few teams would want either.

The truth is that neither of these guys were left with many options. JM was traded in a deal that cannot hurt SF no matter the outcome. If he makes the roster, they get a backup tackle for a 7th round pick ...something any GM would take any day. If JM doesn't make the roster, SF loses nothing. RI is sitting on his ass hoping he can twitter his was to convincing people he's rehabilitated himself in some way, but his football history is what it is, long and ugly. Nebraska, Oregon, St. Louis, Buffalo, and now Miami ...he's made himself unwelcome and unwanted at every stop. At this point, his options are just as few as was JM's.

I'd rather have thyroid cancer than lung cancer, but that doesn't mean I want to have thyroid cancer. If you say I have to pick either/or, myself and probably every other person I know would take the former. But not a one of them would actually want either.
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What you stated is a false interpretation of the result. Not a false result.
There is no false result when given an either/or.

The stated question takes everything that has happened in whole, and asks a simple
question. The result is as real as any other question that involves linear choices.

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RkyDaMan34 said:
I wonder if the players will look at Harbaugh in a different light bringing in a whiny little snitch..hmmmm JM is a Job killer.. Just ask the coaches in Miami..
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I don't think so.

I can't know, obviously....But I would count it in his "Plus" column for supporting one of "his guys".
I would expect nothing less, honestly.
 
GoonBoss said:
What you stated is a false interpretation of the result. Not a false result.
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Okay, so rather than a "false result," it leaves an erroneous impression because the question is based upon a condition (having to choose RI or JM without the ability to pass on both) that doesn't exist in reality.
 
JTC111 said:
Okay, so rather than a "false result," it leaves an erroneous impression because the question is based upon a condition (having to choose RI or JM without the ability to pass on both) that doesn't exist in reality.
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I don't think it does that at all.

Most reasonable people know that both Ri and JM have baggage attached that makes
the skill set/trouble ratio unfavorable.

What you are arguing would go without saying to most people, I think.
Of course most teams would want neither.

That's not the question.

The question is either/or. A or B.

Not A, B or C.
 
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