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We're In Trouble...

Have you watched any other games yet??....There quite a few teams that stink.....Take the Gills for instance...They flat out stunk it up even though the score doesnt show it.

What do you expect out of a team that never had depth while While wanny was here....It doesnt take a offseason to fill the voids.Right now i dont expect much but mark my words they will win more then 4 wins.

I understand where you are comen from so lets have blind faith together :rofl3: :rofl3: ;)
 
perezferia said:
Wake up Dorothy, we're not in Kansas anymore.

I LOVE MY DOLPHINS! But we're not very good right now. If you can't understand that those two thoughts can co-exist in the heart of a true fan then you're a child.

I WANT them to be great, but they're not even going to be average. And it hurts me deeply to say it, but it helps get me prepared for a tough season emotionally. Go ahead, live in denial. It's your right.

But we're in trouble.

My name is not Dorothy thank you. And I am not in denial. Please don't make assumptions like that. Just because you think we suck, doesn't mean everybody else has to.
 
perezferia said:
First of all, let me first say that I LOVE the PHINS! I just love them and have done so since I was 6 years old! I'm not jumping off any bandwagon or any other ridiculous cliche that means that I'm going to root for another team or against my own team. Got that? Good.

However...

This team is in trouble. Pre-Season games don't tell you anything about the coaches ability to game plan because they don't do it. They DO tell you about your talent levels, however. And here's the facts:

1) Our #1's are no where near as talented as we think. Our offensive line provided slightly better pass protection but still can't run block a lick. That's talent on talent. Oh sure, we'll get SOME yardage on clever plays the coaches gameplan, but straight up talent on talent, we're pathetic. We may be the least talented team in the NFL. We definitely are the least talented Offensive Line and Secondary in the NFL. The #1 Defensive line ONLY got pressure off of 3-4 blitzes. Where was Jason Taylor on the 4-3's? Without pressure we're going nowhere.

2) We have the worst 2nd - 3rd teamers in the NFL. Our safeties, Tillman, Schulters, Bell, Bua... none of them can play a lick. We're going to be ranked 32 in pass defense this year. We have no quality depth anywhere.

3) What I've seen is that we have 2 QB's that both suck. One telegraphs his throws because he's so lost in the offense and the other knows the offense but doesn't have the ball skills to deliver the passes on time and on target.

Conclusion?

My offseason optimism is gone and I find myself agreeing with the pundits for the first time ever! We're gonna be bad and it's not going to be pretty. With the schedule that we face and the learning curve the players are facing and the age of the few decent players we have and the propensity for those guys to get hurt during the season and our terribl depth, 4-12 might be a lofty goal for us.

I know, I know... Now you hate me. You're going to insult me, call me names, point out all of the bright spots in these games like TE Diamond, etc.. and remind me that it's only pre-season, yada, yada, yada...

But I've been watching pre-season football for 35 years my friends...

We're in trouble.

Ricky provides a spark, but he won't be there until week 6 and even then, will he be mentally there by then?

We've overated BOOKER because the man has no speed. In this offense a pure possesion reciever can't do well. We need to trade him while the deadline is still open and pick up a servicable CENTER to replace McKinney, who is a baboon. We've got 4-3 linebackers that can be dealt, like Eddie Moore and Bua and Pope that have talent and ability but no longer fit this team's scheme. We need to pick up draft picks for next year and undure one of the toughest seasons in Dolphin's history.

We'll find out a lot more in pre-season game #4, but until then I'll leave you with one thought, those of you convinced that we're going to go 8-8 or 10-6 this year, on pure talent which Dolphins scare opposing teams?

Jason Taylor, Ricky Williams, Chris Chambers (Maybe).

THAT'S IT. If you scheme offensive and defensive plays designed to neutralize THOSE 3 guys, this team becomes a sorrry collection of rookies, castoffs, wannabe's and neverwere's.

There's no talnet here, yet. There will be, but not yet.

FEELEY, FREROTTE, ROSENFELD, GORDON, SCHULTERS, HOWARD, LEE, GILMORE, WELKER, TILLMAN, and on and on... These VETS wouldn't start on ANY NFL team this year or any other year. Yeah, we have a few promising rookies, but potential gets coaches fired. We don't REALLY know how ROTH, CROWDER and DANIELS will do in a real game yet, how they'll handle adversity.

This is a young team running headlong into the brick wall known as lack of NFL caliber talent. Saban has brought together a hell of a college team with these Dolphins, but we're in real trouble here in the NFL.

How many clear misses and terrible throws from both QB's will it take before I get some support for what I'm saying? And WHY am I saying it? Cuz I believe a lot of you fans, like me, suffer terribly during the season. I suffer emotionally like you wouldn't believe. But if my expectations are down and realistic, I watch the games like a passionate observer and not in life or death mode as I usually do. This is about mental stability and well being.

Say it with me, We're Not Going To Be Good and Chances Are We're Going To Be QUITE Bad. For awhile, anyway...

I love my Dolphins and pray for the day that come back strong and focused.

Thank you guys.

GO PHINS!!!!!!

keep telling yourself that and by next week you will be a bills fan!
 
zackattack54 said:
Why can't this team turn it around? I live right outside of Pittsburgh and ya know what .... they're "fans" were saying the same thing at this time last year as well a couple of games into the season. Lets see they just came off a bad season (6-10) they're secondary was awful, and Oline had a lot of ?'s.

Now you can say what you want about Big Ben but he wasn't as outstanding as some believe (just look at his stats). Cowher (who IMO is a very good coach) was able to get his team playing together even though they don't have any superstars. Bettis? Staley? Plexico? Ward? - you don't think our O weapons match up to that?

All I'm sayin is they went from 6-10 to 15-1 and if Saban is able to get the fins on the same page and not make the mistakes this team did last year, why can't we go from 4-12 to 10-6?

My point exactly. Pitt, SD & Cleveland, just 3 teams who were in the same boat. LITHO & PEREWZFERIA go to church & find the faith.
 
Dolphin1184 said:
Don't ever say that again. You will NEVER get ANY support for saying that your own team is BAD. And dont give me this "realistic" BULL.

cough...cough...homer...cough...cough
 
I think it is funny how you can decide this after two preseason games, where most of the starters come out sometime in the first half.

If you don't remember, our second and third stringers will most likely not play in regular season games unless of injury or total domination.

You are a fool.
 
BLUEPHIN said:
cough...cough...homer...cough...cough

Why? Becuase I dont think we suck? PLEASE. You can take your "homer" garbage and take it to another board. What the hell are you? A pats fan? Jets fan? Usually they are the ones who call phin fans homers.
 
zackattack54 said:
Why can't this team turn it around? I live right outside of Pittsburgh and ya know what .... they're "fans" were saying the same thing at this time last year as well a couple of games into the season. Lets see they just came off a bad season (6-10) they're secondary was awful, and Oline had a lot of ?'s.

Now you can say what you want about Big Ben but he wasn't as outstanding as some believe (just look at his stats). Cowher (who IMO is a very good coach) was able to get his team playing together even though they don't have any superstars. Bettis? Staley? Plexico? Ward? - you don't think our O weapons match up to that?

All I'm sayin is they went from 6-10 to 15-1 and if Saban is able to get the fins on the same page and not make the mistakes this team did last year, why can't we go from 4-12 to 10-6?

I love these statements liek yours about Ben. You would of been one of the ones who grabbed Rivers and Manning in front of Ben too, huh? Hype dont mean jack, except to cloud your own judgement.

The reason Ben was a key factor for Pittsburgh's success, wasnt his yards or TD's, but his 3rd down completion %. He had one of THE best in the league. Sometimes it's not about the stats for FF, but what he does to help the team win.
 
Since when did Saban have a bad draft? You already see in the future that Ronnie B,M.Roth,C.Crowder T.Daniels(4th rd pick who will start) are going to suck and will be out of the league soon.Just admit it you just want to start some **** here and get everyone riled up.You are no Dolphin fan.
 
NYFINNER said:
Hey LITHO did ya read this. Now here's a TRUE Fin Fan, who doesn't claim to KNOW the future, like you do.

Ok Lamar Gordon for a 3rd and Feeley for a 2nd supporter.... Do you feel better now, I sure know I do.... I was right since the day they happened... Bust and a Bust...

Called those right.... got fried for it... but it's all good now!:D
 
ohall said:
lol you type that like that is a bad thing to be.

I know, right? I mean to be a fan... gee thats a sin! Some people take this being "realistic" to the extreme. I hate to see their in game demeanor.
 
Dolphin1184 said:
My name is not Dorothy thank you. And I am not in denial. Please don't make assumptions like that. Just because you think we suck, doesn't mean everybody else has to.

Thats true, so instead of arguing with us why we are wrong, just go make a thread and live in denial. You say you dont need to belive what we do, well, the same works the other way also.
 
The reasons for Ben's success was his team had a running game and his offensive line gelled (sp?). The D also came through and they won some games inspite of the QB's play (the Jets playoff game, the Pats playoff game - oh wait they lost that one, sorry)
 
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