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What Would Peyton Manning's Acquisition Look Like?

Of course this is all under the assumption of good health.

As far as the drivel about not starting Luck. WTH?????????

Listen, if the Colts draft Luck and keep Manning, it will cost them over 50mil. No team has that kind of cap room, and nobody is trading for a 28 million dollar player who will be 36. That would be insane.

Look, the Colts have fired all their top coaches, they are obviously moving on into a new era.

I have researched the stem cell therapy Peyton has received. It is shown amazing results in many cases. Mind blowing kind of stuff. He could be 100% again.

There is a very distinct possibility that Peyton will be the Dolphins starting QB next year.

Uhh... no.

Rookie contracts are slated now (sort of. Unofficially). Cam Newton signed for 4 years and 22 million. No more busting the cap with a high-pick bust. They can easily acommodate Luck and Manning capwise.
 
Uhh... no.

Rookie contracts are slated now (sort of. Unofficially). Cam Newton signed for 4 years and 22 million. No more busting the cap with a high-pick bust. They can easily acommodate Luck and Manning capwise.

There goes the FA last time I checked QB wasn't the only holes in their team. Luck will not sit behind manning.
 
Uhh... no.

Rookie contracts are slated now (sort of. Unofficially). Cam Newton signed for 4 years and 22 million. No more busting the cap with a high-pick bust. They can easily acommodate Luck and Manning capwise.

actually he's almost right. If the colts keep manning, they owe him 35 million next year. Luck stands to make 5M min/year (new rookie wage scale) and any bonuses coming his way. That's over 40M in cap hit on those two guys who cannot play at the same time.
 
Uhh... no.

Rookie contracts are slated now (sort of. Unofficially). Cam Newton signed for 4 years and 22 million. No more busting the cap with a high-pick bust. They can easily acommodate Luck and Manning capwise.

It isn't my addition. The numbers have been widely published for weeks, and they are correct. Keeping Manning and drafting Luck would mean over a 50 mil cap number. They would have to cut a fourth of their team to pull that off. It is absurd to even consider that the Colts would do both.
 
I can't imagine anyone making a serious arguement that Peyton is the all time best QB. He isn't even close to being the best all time QB.

Peyton was notorious for choking in the big game up until he beat the Pats. His brother will probably go down in history as a better QB than him forget about all of the legitimate Hall of Fame QB's that are better than he is. Peyton couldn't carry Danny's jock strap, he will never even come close to being in Montana's or Brady's league.

At the end of the day stats are just stats. Going after Peyton would be a clear sign that Ross is going to ruin the fins is all it would be.

Why can't Peyton hold Danny's jock strap? Last I heard, all Danny had were stats. Danny is 8-10 in the post season, Manning is 9-10. Manning has a superbowl ring and he has most of Dan's old stats. I know we love Dan, but lets be reasonable. If we think Dan is in the conversation of GOAT, then Manning is there as well. Peyton is basically Danny 2.0.

Eli had a fantastic year, but no one would ever pick Eli over Peyton. If you think Eli is a better QB than Peyton, we can stop talking about how good QB's are right here.
 
I can't imagine anyone making a serious arguement that Peyton is the all time best QB. He isn't even close to being the best all time QB.

Peyton was notorious for choking in the big game up until he beat the Pats. His brother will probably go down in history as a better QB than him forget about all of the legitimate Hall of Fame QB's that are better than he is. Peyton couldn't carry Danny's jock strap, he will never even come close to being in Montana's or Brady's league.

At the end of the day stats are just stats. Going after Peyton would be a clear sign that Ross is going to ruin the fins is all it would be.

How are you going to use this as an argument against Manning and not mention it with Marino? I mean i love Marino, but he wasn't exactly captain clutch himself in the postseason. Manning and Brady are the two best of this era and also some of the best of all time. Brady hasn't won a championship since the defense signals weren't being recorded for him, so i'd say the edge goes to Manning. (Of course Brady could change that this Sunday, i don't think he will though).
 
Uhh... no.

Rookie contracts are slated now (sort of. Unofficially). Cam Newton signed for 4 years and 22 million. No more busting the cap with a high-pick bust. They can easily acommodate Luck and Manning capwise.

No, they can't. You're acting like it's simply MANNING and LUCK. But w/o even considering MANNING and LUCK, the COLTS are ALREADY in "cap hell". All those "baclkloaded contracts", designed to keep a core of solid veterans on the "O" AND "D" and STILL be able to afford MANNING. Well, all of those "chickens" are coming home to roost, my friend. Do your homework before posting.
 
Why can't Peyton hold Danny's jock strap? Last I heard, all Danny had were stats. Danny is 8-10 in the post season, Manning is 9-10. Manning has a superbowl ring and he has most of Dan's old stats. I know we love Dan, but lets be reasonable. If we think Dan is in the conversation of GOAT, then Manning is there as well. Peyton is basically Danny 2.0.

Eli had a fantastic year, but no one would ever pick Eli over Peyton. If you think Eli is a better QB than Peyton, we can stop talking about how good QB's are right here.

One thing that PAERCELLS got right: "You are what your record says you are". ELI is in the SB this weekend. If he wins, he has 2 SB rings, to PEYTON's 1 and MARINO's NONE. And ELI's 1st SB victory was over an 18-0 opponent. And ELI has a few more years left in his career than PEYTON does. MARINO's time is UP, and the "book" on him is closed. So in the ONLY category that matters as far as I'm concerned, SB WINS, ELI and PEYTON are tied. And a few days from now, ELI will have at the least appeared in more SBs than PEYTON. If he wins, then in the MANNING Clan, he's the man!

P.S.: MARINO's invisible.
 
First of all,IMO, it would look really,really good. Really? Ya, really.

How quickly we forget. Peyton Manning is arguably the best QB to ever play in the NFL. He is in everyone's top 10. We could go on and on but this thread is about the future, not the past.

A couple things: 1. Peyton will be cut so his acquisition won't affect comp picks. In order to clear cap, most of the Dolphins free agents will walk and it is doubtful that there will be cap room for any other significant FA's after Peyton. Keep in mind, extensions for Long,Wake and Starks may take priority over new FA's; however, on the other hand, there are a few things the Dolphins could do to clear some cap.

Perhaps Matt Moore could, or maybe should be traded? He has no bonus from what I could see so it should be 2.5 mil right off the top. IMO, he is worth at least a 4th. Maybe the Jags would be interested.
I think the Dolphins should still draft a young QB this year. Not a high pick, maybe a 5th or 6th round pick.

Dolphins should be able to put a low RFA tender on Phillip Merling and trade him. Maybe a 6th from Oakland. They will be switching to a base 3-4 and need depth.

A lot of people may want to cut Bell but I think it is better to let him finish his contract and give Jones and Clemons another year to mature. I could see a 2nd round pick for a safety in 2013.

Dolphins would have to fill a lot of holes through the draft so I would expect them to aggressively pursue trading down, maybe even more than once. Example: Trade down from the 8-9 to the 17th pick with the Bengals who have the Raiders 1st rounder from the Palmer trade. Bengals may be done with Benson as a feature back, If Richardson slides they could easily pull the trigger. Dolphins would acquire their 2nd rounder. Dolphins could trade down again from the 17 to the back of round 1. The Packers are desperate for pass rushers. They were at the bottom of the NFL in sacks last year. If Brockers or a guy like Nick Perry slides, it could happen.

Mock Draft:
1st...........Coby Fleener............TE........Expected to blow up the combine Fleener is deep threat TE in the mold of Vernon Davis(not quite as fast), but he strikes me as an excellent fit for Manning.

2nd..........Bruce Irvin................OLB......Misi had 1 sack last year. He needs to move to ILB. Irvin will compete to start.

2nd...........Chandler Jones.........OLB......Competes to start with Irvin

2nd...........Markelle Martin.........FS.........Should start

3rd............LaMichael James.......RB.........An electric backup to the oft-injured Reggie Bush. James was an academic award winner as well.

4th............Hebron Fangupo.......NT........Who??? I know, but I guess he is so strong it's spooky.

4th............Tom Compton..........RT.........I see Jerry,Murtha, and Compton competing for RT.

5th............Derek Wolf..............DE/DT....A steal here IMO. Dude can pass rush.

6th............Chandler Harnish......QB.........Very mobile, good rushing QB with a solid arm and some upside. Tyler Thigpen, only better.

6th............Blake DeChristopher..OT/OG....Enormously underrated, but that might change, he was awarded the trophy for the best OL in the ACC. I see this guy pushing Incognito for the starting LG position.http://www.roanoke.com/sports/vtfootball/wb/301793

7th..............Darrell Scott..........RB/FB.....Boom or bust
FA...........Sammy Brown.........OLB.........Situational pass rusher
FA...........Drew Nowak...........DE/DT.....Another great pass rushing lineman. A real steal in the 7th.
FA............Paul Cornick............OT.........Might make the roster, but at least the PS
FA............Randy Colling...........DT.........Specimen, may even be able to play the 5-technique. Champion wrestler. Dominated in Div 2
FA............Chris Forcier............QB.........A couple years on the PS, who knows?

Roster:
QB......................Manning,Devlin,Harnish
RB......................Bush,Thomas,James,Hilliard
FB......................Darrell Scott
TE......................Fleener,Fasano,Clay
WR.....................Marshall,Bess,Hartline,Wallace,Gates
OT......................Long,Compton,Jerry,Murtha
C/OG...................Pouncey,DeChristopher,Incognito,Garner,Feinga

DT.......................Fangupo,Baker,Colling..........If Shaun Rogers is cheap this offseason, he could be signed to a 1 year deal for insurance.
DE.......................Starks,Odrick,McDaniel,Wolf,Nowak
ILB......................Dansby,Burnett,Misi,Spitler
OLB.....................Wake,Jones,Irvin,Brown
S.........................Bell,Martin,Jones,Clemons
CB.......................Davis,Smith,Allen,Carroll,Wilson....Allen?? Yes, he did OK his 1st year at nickel and he had 43 tackles in limited snaps. He knows how to play the game and he will be dirt cheap.
Denney,Fields,Carpenter?? Dolphins could look for a cheaper kicker.

All the projections based on NFLDRAFTSCOUT.COM



This would be a horrible off season
we don't improve on defense, OL, or WR. Yes We have Manning but hes been out of football for a year with a career ending injury. So I am not so sold on knighting him as our savior. First off if we take fleener were in trouble hes a late first round- 2nd round talent. if we cant trade down we take a RT or WR in round 1. if we can trade down and acquire another 2nd. we go WR, THEN IN ROUND 2 OG/T AND TE.

as for our off season signing Grubbs or Nicks is a must to sure up our line. the if GB doesn't resign Finley which is a possibility because they wont have enough money he becomes a top off season priority. he we do that it opens up the draft for us.

This would be considered an amazing off season.

FA- Grubbs, Finley, Meachem

Draft 1.Ashlon Jeffery wr
2. RT Adman Ohio state
3. QB WEEDEN will fall due to his age
 
One thing that PAERCELLS got right: "You are what your record says you are". ELI is in the SB this weekend. If he wins, he has 2 SB rings, to PEYTON's 1 and MARINO's NONE. And ELI's 1st SB victory was over an 18-0 opponent. And ELI has a few more years left in his career than PEYTON does. MARINO's time is UP, and the "book" on him is closed. So in the ONLY category that matters as far as I'm concerned, SB WINS, ELI and PEYTON are tied. And a few days from now, ELI will have at the least appeared in more SBs than PEYTON. If he wins, then in the MANNING Clan, he's the man!

P.S.: MARINO's invisible.

No. By your argument, Dan was as good as Jamarcus Russell. Both have zero SB wins. Terry Bradshaw was as good as Joe Montana. both have 4 SB wins. Jim Plunkett has a career 67QB rating and a 72-72 record. He's 2-0 in SB appearances. Only 4 other QB's have more SB wins so that makes him top 5 all time. Terrible argument.
 
NO thank you on Bruce Irvin!!!

Sam goes to Alshon, Unless we can get him in the second or 3rd
 
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