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Where does Walker see the Dolphins in 2015?

Walker should count himself lucky if he can distinguish between his azz and his elbow. Here's a guy whose own description on his FB page involved "attending" a college, not "graduating" so he's academically uncredentialed. Beyond that, before ESPN plucked him out of obscurity obviously to satisfy some demographic prerogatives, he was covering the mighty Cleveland Browns for a 3rd tier markiet Columbus paper. Not Ohio State locally, but the Cleveland Browns hundreds of miles away! That's like a writer from the Melbourne Florida Today covering the Phins or from the Portland Oregonian covering the Raiders or 49'ers. This guy is an unqualfied azzclown whose opinion is of as much value as is Charlie Sheen's when it comes to the subjects of sobriety and sanity.

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those power rankings are a great example of those so-called "experts" making themselves less reliable. why does espn hate on every miami team so much? oh well, it's going to be great to stick it to them when we turn a lot of heads these next few years. -BIM
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/42637/nfl-future-power-rankings-afc-east



That is right, three years from now Walker and ESPN see the Dolphins as the 28th team in the league. Seems they have ran out of preseason projections for the 2012 season so they can bash the Dolphins, so now they are predicting years down the road. Unreal.

Right, these reporters bash the Fins cuz there's a massive media conspiracy against the Dolphins. It's got nothing to do with the fact that the team has sucked for years and years and years.
Get over it dude, nothing that the guy said is untrue. The team has a ****-ton of question marks including a completely unproven HC, another year of a QB competition between a bunch of nobodies, a plethora of garbage at wide receiver, and absolutely nothing at safety. Honestly, what do you expect people to say??? Cmon man.
Once again for the Fins, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting yet another **** show.

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Why are we wanting to always kill the messenger.

Alot of these types of threads the last few years & they've been somewhat accurate ... at least more accurate than false.

We won't get respect until we can climb above .500 & stay there .... tough this year with new coaches & new schemes on both sides of the ball ... only an easy schedule helps us.

Don't bring that logic crap around here. People don't wanna hear it.
 
Right, these reporters bash the Fins cuz there's a massive media conspiracy against the Dolphins. It's got nothing to do with the fact that the team has sucked for years and years and years.
Get over it dude, nothing that the guy said is untrue. The team has a ****-ton of question marks including a completely unproven HC, another year of a QB competition between a bunch of nobodies, a plethora of garbage at wide receiver, and absolutely nothing at safety. Honestly, what do you expect people to say??? Cmon man.
Once again for the Fins, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting yet another **** show.
Walker hasn't said one positive thing about the Dolphins since he took over the beat job at ESPN. He even blasted the decision to give Wake an extension, after he had previously said that no extension was going to create a big problem during the Summer and the team didn't need that distraction.

Walker doesn't think the Dolphins will be good this year. Fine. However, he(along with others at ESPN) come up with a power ranking of what teams will look like three years down the road and expect them to be WORSE than what they rank the Dolphins this year going into the season. What does the question marks at WR have to do with a projected roster in 2015? You mean none of the issues on the roster in 2012 will be addressed during the span of the next three years? Come on insomnia411.

Nobodies at quarterback? So you don't like the idea of taking a first round quarterback?

I guess if Walker isn't biased at all, or doesn't have a thing against Miami, I guess his projections today most be truthful. He said he could see the Dolphins finishing 2-14 in 2012. Yet also says the Bills could be 11-5. Are you seriously backing this guy insomnia411? Come on man.
 
Walker hasn't said one positive thing about the Dolphins since he took over the beat job at ESPN. He even blasted the decision to give Wake an extension, after he had previously said that no extension was going to create a big problem during the Summer and the team didn't need that distraction.

Walker doesn't think the Dolphins will be good this year. Fine. However, he(along with others at ESPN) come up with a power ranking of what teams will look like three years down the road and expect them to be WORSE than what they rank the Dolphins this year going into the season. What does the question marks at WR have to do with a projected roster in 2015? You mean none of the issues on the roster in 2012 will be addressed during the span of the next three years? Come on insomnia411.

Nobodies at quarterback? So you don't like the idea of taking a first round quarterback?

I guess if Walker isn't biased at all, or doesn't have a thing against Miami, I guess his projections today most be truthful. He said he could see the Dolphins finishing 2-14 in 2012. Yet also says the Bills could be 11-5. Are you seriously backing this guy insomnia411? Come on man.

He called the 2-14 prediction an absolutely worst case scenario situation. "Nightmare scenario" were his exact words. Even in that worst case scenario he said he expected Miami to win about 6 games....which is exactly how many we won last year with a more talented team. In order to go 2-14, he said both Moore and Garrard would have to bomb or get injured and Tannehill would have to play way to early and become the next Blaine Gabbert.

Nightmare scenario (2-14): Miami is in the process of rebuilding. There's always an element of danger in that teams can fall apart and lose confidence when they’re not in contention. I think the Dolphins are probably a five- or six-win team next season. They could win a few games with their tough defense alone. But if nothing goes right and things fall apart, the worst-case scenario could be an ugly two-win season. The offense is a rough project. The Dolphins are installing a new West Coast offense and don't have the receivers to make it run smoothly. The biggest key is quarterback. If Moore and Garrard both struggle or get hurt, the Dolphins have no shot. It could also lead to Miami playing its first-round pick too soon. Tannehill could find himself leading a bad team before he’s ready. Think of what happened to Blaine Gabbert last season. That’s a nightmare the Dolphins want to avoid

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/42548/dolphins-dreamnightmare-scenarios

Also in there he stated the good scenario. Also, with the way you were looking at it, the Bills wouldnt be 11-5, they would be 5-11. His "good" scenario is they make a run like we did in 2008. His "nightmare" scenario(which you were talking about) for them is 5-11.
 
Walker hasn't said one positive thing about the Dolphins since he took over the beat job at ESPN. He even blasted the decision to give Wake an extension, after he had previously said that no extension was going to create a big problem during the Summer and the team didn't need that distraction.

Walker doesn't think the Dolphins will be good this year. Fine. However, he(along with others at ESPN) come up with a power ranking of what teams will look like three years down the road and expect them to be WORSE than what they rank the Dolphins this year going into the season. What does the question marks at WR have to do with a projected roster in 2015? You mean none of the issues on the roster in 2012 will be addressed during the span of the next three years? Come on insomnia411.

Nobodies at quarterback? So you don't like the idea of taking a first round quarterback?

I guess if Walker isn't biased at all, or doesn't have a thing against Miami, I guess his projections today most be truthful. He said he could see the Dolphins finishing 2-14 in 2012. Yet also says the Bills could be 11-5. Are you seriously backing this guy insomnia411? Come on man.

I'll address all of your points down the line.

1. Maybe he hasn't written anything positive about the Fins because there really hasn't been a whole lot of positives to report on. Again, you're talking about a team with a completely unproven head coach that has no idea who it's quarterback will be. Is there some hope? Of course. There always is, but if this team wins more games than it loses this year, the entire world will be shocked.
2. ESPN came up with a stupid idea to have some of their writers project where NFL teams will be in 3 years. It makes no sense to begin with because, like you said, there is no way of knowing what teams will address what issues over the course of that time frame. That being said, these people probably projected what will happen in the future based upon what has happened in the recent past. If you do that with the Dolphins, you are going to project failure, particularly if you don't like Ryan Tannehill. (which a lot of people understandably don't)
3. Yes. Nobodies at quarterback. Matt Moore. David Garrard. Ryan Tannehill. Puke. Disgusting. Absolutely horrific. Need more adjectives? I was never a Ryan Tannehill fan, it has nothing to do with me being a downer or a negative fan. I watched a lot of Texas A&M, and had decided long before the draft that Tannehill was no better than a high 2nd round pick. The kid had a terrible showing in almost every situation that actually mattered to A&M last year. Go back and watch him against Texas. It was B-R-U-T-A-L.
4. I wouldn't be surprised by anything next year. Anything could happen. At this point, the Bills probably do have a better outlook than the Fins do on paper for the next 3 years. They have a real quarterback, a couple of real offensive weapons, and some playmakers in the secondary. All things that we lack. Sorry, the truth hurts.
Again, I hope that Philbin turns out to be a great coach and Tannehill proves me wrong. But personally, I'm expecting to be right, again.
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/42637/nfl-future-power-rankings-afc-east



That is right, three years from now Walker and ESPN see the Dolphins as the 28th team in the league. Seems they have ran out of preseason projections for the 2012 season so they can bash the Dolphins, so now they are predicting years down the road. Unreal.

I'd love to have a job where you write your opinion about football teams. Even if he said they'd be a Top 5 Super Bowl contender. Think about how unimportant and meaningless this type of journalism is. It's mind-boggling.

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How do these guys have jobs? Seriously!!!

Was ESPN offseason reporting equally as bad in the 70's, 80's, 90's???

Not how. But why? This "information" does what for the average human being?
 
In 2015, despite the probable lack of a degree and demonstrated ability to think so far out of the box that he's lost in another rhombus, I actually do envision him in a management capacity that will best utilize his talents.

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I'll address all of your points down the line.

1. Maybe he hasn't written anything positive about the Fins because there really hasn't been a whole lot of positives to report on. Again, you're talking about a team with a completely unproven head coach that has no idea who it's quarterback will be. Is there some hope? Of course. There always is, but if this team wins more games than it loses this year, the entire world will be shocked.
There is a lot of positives to report on this season. The draft appears be very solid on paper and they finally took a young franchise quarterback in the 1st round to build around. They extended the contract of their best defensive player. People like you said Sparano was a big problem, well he is now gone. They hired a head coach(yes unproven, but all first time head coaches are) from a winning organization and was the architect of the Packers potent offense. No he didn't call plays on game day, but he designed the game plan. Philbin landing Mike Sherman as his OC was a home run. Richard Marshall was a solid pick up in free agency. Re-signing Solai was huge(pun intended). Bush had a breakout season last year, and is an offensive player to be very excited about in this new offense(assuming he stays healthy like he did last season).

If the Dolphins have a winning season, you and "the World" might be shocked, but I won't be. They have a new attitude, some nice additions in free agency and the draft, plus a cupcake schedule. Winning 9 games is something that definitely would not shocking.

2. ESPN came up with a stupid idea to have some of their writers project where NFL teams will be in 3 years. It makes no sense to begin with because, like you said, there is no way of knowing what teams will address what issues over the course of that time frame. That being said, these people probably projected what will happen in the future based upon what has happened in the recent past. If you do that with the Dolphins, you are going to project failure, particularly if you don't like Ryan Tannehill. (which a lot of people understandably don't)
At least we agree that ESPN's idea was stupid. Though if you are basing future rankings on past success and the current state of teams, that means nothing is ever going to change in the league. Doesn't matter if it is three years down the road or 20. That line of thinking is ridiculous.


3. Yes. Nobodies at quarterback. Matt Moore. David Garrard. Ryan Tannehill. Puke. Disgusting. Absolutely horrific. Need more adjectives? I was never a Ryan Tannehill fan, it has nothing to do with me being a downer or a negative fan. I watched a lot of Texas A&M, and had decided long before the draft that Tannehill was no better than a high 2nd round pick. The kid had a terrible showing in almost every situation that actually mattered to A&M last year. Go back and watch him against Texas. It was B-R-U-T-A-L.
Matt Moore and David Garrard are definitley not franchise quarterbacks, but they are not puke, disgusting or absolutely horrific as you put it. Moore was the 12th ranked QB last season and Garrard is just a few years removed from a Pro Bowl season. Again, not elite, but not really that bad either. Your not a fan of the Dolphins round pick? The world and I are shocked! :lol:

4. I wouldn't be surprised by anything next year. Anything could happen. At this point, the Bills probably do have a better outlook than the Fins do on paper for the next 3 years. They have a real quarterback, a couple of real offensive weapons, and some playmakers in the secondary. All things that we lack. Sorry, the truth hurts.
Are you sure you are not James Walker? You two seem to have the same misguided ideas.

They have a real quarterback? You mean Ryan Fitzpatrick? The guy that threw for 24 touchdowns, but a WHOPPING 23 interceptions last year? Led his team to a 6-10 record, with a team in your own words "have a better outlook than the Fins do". So Matt Moore in your opinion had a worse surrounding cast, but had almost twice as many touchdowns as interceptions and had a 6-6 record. Are real quarterbacks supposed to be worse than the bad quarterbacks? ;)

The Bills do have some nice offensive weapons, I will give you that. They have Fred Jackson, who Reggie Bush outrushed. They have C.J. Spiller, who Daniel Thomas(a rookie) outrushed. They have Scott Chandler at tight end, who Anthony Fasano outperformed. They do have Steve Johnson, who the Dolphins(at this moment) don't have a player that compares to. The Bills are so much better on offense. :lol:

The Bills do have nice pieces on in the secondary, but the Dolphins have a much better overall defense.


Again, I hope that Philbin turns out to be a great coach and Tannehill proves me wrong. But personally, I'm expecting to be right, again.
Have to be right once, to be right again. ;)
 
I’m ever the off-season optimist. I dislike This Walker cat and admit that I’ve not read a single positive remark about the Fins from him. That said, I don’t see why anyone can logically disagree with what he’s written here. Let’s examine...

Is rookie Ryan Tannehill the long-term solution quarterback?
- I sure as hell hope so but neither I nor anyone here can say they KNOW he will be.

Is Joe Philbin a viable head coach? – I like everything about Philbin. I THINK he’ll be the strong and intelligent leader we’ve been lacking. He still needs to prove me right though.

Is Pro Bowl left tackle Jake Long staying in Miami beyond 2012? - As of today, can anyone here answer this question?

There are a lot of questions in Miami. – He needn’t go into detail about the rest of our question marks IMO. We all know there’s a lot of them.

The Dolphins aren’t ready to compete now – Most likely true. I hope he’s wrong but we are definitely re-building (again). Something a competitive team doesn’t do.

and they have to make a lot of the right moves in order to compete in the future. – Goes without saying assuming we agree with the previous point.

I’m sorry but I just don’t see a lot of wrong with what was written. I hope the ranking is way off and we finish top 10. Again, off-season optimist here. But if you’re not a fan of this team and you’re looking at it objectionably, you ask yourself these same questions and conclude with a mid 20’s ranking as well.

I like the direction we’re headed. I believe in our new coach and the system he’s implementing.

One more thing... It’s pretty damn stupid to try and rank teams 3 years into the future in the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] place. Typical ESPN article.
 
I’m ever the off-season optimist. I dislike This Walker cat and admit that I’ve not read a single positive remark about the Fins from him. That said, I don’t see why anyone can logically disagree with what he’s written here. Let’s examine...

Is rookie Ryan Tannehill the long-term solution quarterback?
- I sure as hell hope so but neither I nor anyone here can say they KNOW he will be.

Is Joe Philbin a viable head coach? – I like everything about Philbin. I THINK he’ll be the strong and intelligent leader we’ve been lacking. He still needs to prove me right though.

Is Pro Bowl left tackle Jake Long staying in Miami beyond 2012? - As of today, can anyone here answer this question?

There are a lot of questions in Miami. – He needn’t go into detail about the rest of our question marks IMO. We all know there’s a lot of them.

The Dolphins aren’t ready to compete now – Most likely true. I hope he’s wrong but we are definitely re-building (again). Something a competitive team doesn’t do.

and they have to make a lot of the right moves in order to compete in the future. – Goes without saying assuming we agree with the previous point.

I’m sorry but I just don’t see a lot of wrong with what was written. I hope the ranking is way off and we finish top 10. Again, off-season optimist here. But if you’re not a fan of this team and you’re looking at it objectionably, you ask yourself these same questions and conclude with a mid 20’s ranking as well.

I like the direction we’re headed. I believe in our new coach and the system he’s implementing.

One more thing... It’s pretty damn stupid to try and rank teams 3 years into the future in the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] place. Typical ESPN article.

The funny thing is that if even half of those questions are answered positively for the Dolphins, then they shouldn't be the 4th worst team in the league in 3 years. Instead of giving them potential credit for this, ESPN and crew assumes the worst.
 
The funny thing is that if even half of those questions are answered positively for the Dolphins, then they shouldn't be the 4th worst team in the league in 3 years. Instead of giving them potential credit for this, ESPN and crew assumes the worst.

Good point. Ultimately this ranking is based off Tannehill being a flop (another Sanchez), Philbin being a flop (another Cam Cameron), Jake Long taking a bigger paycheck elsewhere, our WR's either not being suited to the system or just sucking alltogether with no upgrades in future drafts ever being brought in, our entire rookie class from this season and next being failures and so on and so on...

Crap... You've just destroyed my entire response with your own. :tumbleweed:
 
Since we are on the subject of predicting 3 years down the road. I predict Walker won't have a job at ESPN in 2015 if he can't find something substantial to write about.
 
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