Whether Fisher or Someone Else - Why This Is Turning Into A Great Offseaon

[NBP81]

Her we go for another 25+ page thread trying to knock sense into NYJUNC... Not gonna happen, let it go guys... Dont feed the troll...

 

[nyjunc]

Sorry Junc but in my book you are not a great franchise without a Super Bowl win. Maybe your standards are lower then mine.

I don't disagree but when did I call the Jets a great franchise? We don't have a great farnchise all time, you guys are closer to great but you don't have a great all time franchise either.

I have never debated the histories of the 2 franchises, Miami clearly has the better history but we clearly have the better recent history which is what I always discuss.

The Jets had the bottom line better record but the Dolphins were playing better at the end of the year and the Jets still couldn't beat them with playoff hopes on the line. Anyway they both fell short and need much improvement. The difference is the changes.

The Dolphins are getting a new coach. Ryan hasn't done enough to get fired yet but it's really not looking good. He backed into the playoffs but still hasn't won the division. The Patriots pretty much still own the division. The Jets are probably getting an even worse OC while it appears they are keeping Sanchez. What is worse than not having a franchise QB is thinking that you have one when you don't. The Dolphins are certainly not a lock to improve but there is a lot of upside especially holding the 8th or 9th pick in the draft and a new coach coming in. There is a good chance they will land a good QB. It's hard to see what will be different next year for the Jets?

Of course this could change, they could get Manning and he could be healthy and Miami could spend the 8th pick on another lineman and go with Moore and Henne but so far I like the Dolphins chances better at this point.

That's great that you were playing better at the end of the year- congrats on that!

Ryan hasn't done enough to get fired? 2 title games in 3 years, I'd say he shouldn't be fired.

The pats do own the divison BUt the last 2 years the Jets advanced further than NE including beating NE on their home field in the div rd- the Jets were the best team in the div in '09 & '10

You are?? The only true "great team" of the nineties, especially out of the AFC East is the Pats.

Sorry.

Ohh this is where the confusion comes from maddog's post, I didn't mean we are a great franchise I just meant we are in the '10s now

Like I've been saying ever since the arrival of Rex. Don't talk unless you can back the **** up. Over-hyping your low talent team isn't gonna get u anywhere in the long run. The jets (09-Present) are just an overrated bunch of spoiled rich brats that know nothing about class or respect (for the game).

Nah, he should have said the team would be lucky to be .500 so in '09 & '10 everyone would have celebrated him and in '11 they would haveunderstood why we were 8-8.

Again, Ozzie Newsome knew what he was doing by passing on their DC and running the risk of losing him to go outside to hire a position coach for HC. Has it paid off? I believe it has in 3 years straight making the playoffs and an actual bye this season. Bracket that against the embarrassments and implosions under Fatso's watch, including his own eff yous, fingers, footsie perversion scandals, empty boasts that now fall on deaf ears and current insurrection by their highly paid captain and a bunch of others. As they say, sometimes "familiarity breeds contempt."

2 of 3 years advancing further than Baltimore w/ less talent.

Rex Ryan is a good Xs and Os guy, a very good defensive coordinator. But it is evident to me right now that he just isn't a good head coach. Puts too much of hte focus on himself, has no clue how to manage his offense, can't keep his guys in line, etc.

The way everything is imploding on that team right now, I think Rex needs to get to the Super Bowl next season or he's done. And I sure don't see that team going that far.

if he is so clueless how does he have 2 title game apps and 4 road playoff wins in 2 years?

He puts the focus on him to take the focus and pressure off his team.

Still less than 43, and the jets have not made an appearance since, you think 10 years from now anybody is going to remember the Jets LOST back to back title games and say wow those Jets really dominated the divisional round in the 2010's......

In 10 years we'll be looking back at a SB win, Miami will still be searching for a playoff win.

Only the greenest Koolaid drinking Jets fans would come here and boast about how their team backed their way into the playoffs and got to the AFC championship twice only to be put in there places, and be proud of that. And then give US Dolphins fans crap for looking into the past...no matter how long that is. The past is the past whether it's 40 years or 2 years. Quit bitching about it when we bring up the Jets sorry history if you are going to bring up two failed Jets Super Bowl attempts. Hypocrisy much?

Oh, and finishing 8-8 and two games ahead of us this past season isn't something to brag about...especially when we started out 0-7 and you were a mediocre 4-3 in that same span. Think about it....we finished stronger while you guys faded down the stretch. Nothing to write home about for as a Dolphins fan, but everything for the Jets when Rexy is guaranteeing a Super Bowl win before the season started. Seems like his BS is wearing very thin in NY, along with the Jets as a team as of late.

There's no such thing as backing in, you either win the games required to get in or you don't. You guys had ane asier path to the playoffs in 2008- do you discuss that?

The past is the past, in the present we had a terrible year and still finished 2 games ahead of you.

Hey smart***, don't forget the 90's as well....7 playoff appearances in that decade as well...heh, thats half of the times in the playoffs in one decade than your piece of crap team has in its history!!!!! But hey, there is one positive on the Jets side...looks like at least Rex did the smart thing by hiring the one coach who seemed to beat his *** more than not.....Tony Sparano!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!

You weren't great in the 90s, you were good. You made one title game and got blown out at home, you were only close to one other title game losing to the worst eventual SB team in history in the div rd.

 

[NYPhin24]

I don't disagree but when did I call the Jets a great franchise? We don't have a great farnchise all time, you guys are closer to great but you don't have a great all time franchise either.

I have never debated the histories of the 2 franchises, Miami clearly has the better history but we clearly have the better recent history which is what I always discuss.



That's great that you were playing better at the end of the year- congrats on that!

Ryan hasn't done enough to get fired? 2 title games in 3 years, I'd say he shouldn't be fired.

The pats do own the divison BUt the last 2 years the Jets advanced further than NE including beating NE on their home field in the div rd- the Jets were the best team in the div in '09 & '10



Ohh this is where the confusion comes from maddog's post, I didn't mean we are a great franchise I just meant we are in the '10s now



Nah, he should have said the team would be lucky to be .500 so in '09 & '10 everyone would have celebrated him and in '11 they would haveunderstood why we were 8-8.



2 of 3 years advancing further than Baltimore w/ less talent.



if he is so clueless how does he have 2 title game apps and 4 road playoff wins in 2 years?

He puts the focus on him to take the focus and pressure off his team.



In 10 years we'll be looking back at a SB win, Miami will still be searching for a playoff win.



There's no such thing as backing in, you either win the games required to get in or you don't. You guys had ane asier path to the playoffs in 2008- do you discuss that?

The past is the past, in the present we had a terrible year and still finished 2 games ahead of you.



You weren't great in the 90s, you were good. You made one title game and got blown out at home, you were only close to one other title game losing to the worst eventual SB team in history in the div rd.

Now your just getting recklace, clearly the hiring of Sparano has gotten to you, sounding like your baffoon coach making guarntees, at least he is part of the team so his guarntee actually means something, you however saying "we'll" be looking back at a championship is almost as meaningless as the direction yet another thread like this is going

 

[nyjunc]

Now your just getting recklace, clearly the hiring of Sparano has gotten to you, sounding like your baffoon coach making guarntees, at least he is part of the team so his guarntee actually means something, you however saying "we'll" be looking back at a championship is almost as meaningless as the direction yet another thread like this is going

I am known to be "recklace"

 

[MD]

again, that's great that you were a great franchise in the 70s and 80s but we are in the 2010s!

You labeled the Jets a great franchise here. Sorry I should have quoted this one but I was to lazy to go back

 

[nyjunc]

You labeled the Jets a great franchise here. Sorry I should have quoted this one but I was to lazy to go back

I didn't say "we are" meaning the Jets I said "we are" meaning all of us around in the 2010s. I could see how that can be confusiong reading it but that wasn't my intent.

 

[Rev Kev]

We didn't hire Tony as a HC(many of you said he was better than Rex going into '09 and '10), I hope you have fun continuing to look up at us in the standings.

Do we really have to ask which one is Vk and which is junc???

 

[NYPhin24]

I am known to be "recklace"

Sorry my spelling was not up to par at 9am, ill make sure to use spell check next time i address the almighty junc....

 

[PAfinfan69]

Just another arrogant NY fan with nothing to be ****y about except having a big mouth coach who keeps promising championships. A team full of losers, thugs, and crybabies and they cannot understand why they are falling apart. Keep talking like your fat loser coach and keep falling short every season with your team of losers. Sanchez is nothing and as long as you have your arrogant coach who believes he can talk his way to a ring you will never do a thing. Put that in your pipe and smoke it chump!!!