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Which AFC East QB, iz playing the Best?

Dolphins - Tannehill has been inconsistant, but has played two of the better games in the division..

Patriots - Brady has looked...average and has yet to have a dominate game

Bills - Who knows, they are going with Orton...he's journy man back-up

Jets - Both of these ****-birds would be lucky to make another team roster....Smith so too ****ing dumb for the position and Vick is well past his prime.
 
nyjunc said:
IF Vick can stay healthy(a big if) you know you can win w/ him. we know you can't win w/ Moore.
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That's false, Matt Moore did damn well with the team in 2011 in the 2nd half. Then Tannehill took over. He also took over the game vs you guys in 2012 and I think the score was 30-9? I'm pretty sure he showed us he can win.
 
there hasn't been much difference btw any of the QBs, Ryan has looked better and his O has scored a little more b/c his D consistently has set him up w/ great FP. Miami average starting FP on scoring drives is near midfield.
 
Our running game has also been pretty damn good which is a pleasant surprise even without knowshon who looked unstoppable week 1
 
I'm no Brady apologist, but he has by far a a afar the worst receiving corps and he did lose one of the best OG's in the game when they traded Logan Mankins.

It's early, Tannehill had one good half and has been decent on the season. I'm expecting both to play better as the season matures.

It usually takes offenses about 4 weeks to catch up to defenses, so I expect better play will start to happen from the QB's around the league soon.
 
Digital said:
I'm no Brady apologist, but he has by far a a afar the worst receiving corps and he did lose one of the best OG's in the game when they traded Logan Mankins.

It's early, Tannehill had one good half and has been decent on the season. I'm expecting both to play better as the season matures.

It usually takes offenses about 4 weeks to catch up to defenses, so I expect better play will start to happen from the QB's around the league soon.
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You're fooling yourself if you think Mankins is one of the best OG's in the game anymore. He'll be able to open up holes for the RB's but he allowed 11 sacks on his own last year, he's not the same player. They got rid of the way overpaid contract and got a nice young TE out of it, the problem is they replaced crap with more crap.
 
nyjunc said:
we have the 2nd best QB situation in the division after NE. we all have struggling, developing young QBs but we have the only QB as a backup that has actually had success in this league.

No one wants Matt Moore as their starter.
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You have the 2nd best situation with an inconsistent rookie, and a turnover machine as his backup? Really?
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tay0365 said:
You have the 2nd best situation with an inconsistent rookie, and a turnover machine as his backup? Really?
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Michael Vick is a TO machine?

Buf, Mia and NYJ all have inconsistent young starters(Buf has replaced theirs) and all have vet backups. Only the Jets have a backup that has actually had success in this league, that has won a playoff game- that has even played in a playoff game.
 
nyjunc said:
Michael Vick is a TO machine?

Buf, Mia and NYJ all have inconsistent young starters(Buf has replaced theirs) and all have vet backups. Only the Jets have a backup that has actually had success in this league, that has won a playoff game- that has even played in a playoff game.
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Vick is done. He was never a good QB. His main asset was the ability to run. He has has one solid season in his whole career (2010) in Philly. His passer ratings in the meat of his career in Atlanta were 78, 73, 76. Hardly the stuff of legend. After one good season in Philly, his play dropped off. Now he is two years removed from a season where he posted a 78 QB rating.

As I said Vick is done and the Jets are screwed.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Vick is done. He was never a good QB. His main asset was the ability to run. He has has one solid season in his whole career (2010) in Philly. His passer ratings in the meat of his career in Atlanta were 78, 73, 76. Hardly the stuff of legend. After one good season in Philly, his play dropped off. Now he is two years removed from a season where he posted a 78 QB rating.

As I said Vick is done and the Jets are screwed.
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he might be done but he was once a good QB. you are looking at fantasy #s again, he had excellent seasons in Atlanta and led them to a ton of wins. He was very underrated in Atlanta.

you like ratings, he had an 86 rating last season, has only been below 84.9 once since he came back into the league.
 
nyjunc said:
he might be done but he was once a good QB. you are looking at fantasy #s again, he had excellent seasons in Atlanta and led them to a ton of wins. He was very underrated in Atlanta.

you like ratings, he had an 86 rating last season, has only been below 84.9 once since he came back into the league.
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Vick can win games for you guys -- more than Geno, imo.

LD
 
LDaniel7 said:
Vick can win games for you guys -- more than Geno, imo.

LD
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that may be true. we may see soon enough. I hope Geno gets it going this week but if his poor play continues we could see Vick soon.
 
nyjunc said:
he might be done but he was once a good QB. you are looking at fantasy #s again, he had excellent seasons in Atlanta and led them to a ton of wins. He was very underrated in Atlanta.

you like ratings, he had an 86 rating last season, has only been below 84.9 once since he came back into the league.
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stop getting your player evaluations from ESPN highlights. Atlanta won their division once in the 6 years that Vick was there. His 4 nearly full seasons resulted in 9, 11, 8, and 7 wins. Hardly a ton of wins. They won by running the ball and playing defense. It is not a coincidence that the year he threw the ball the least was the year they had the most success with him at QB.

He was also 1-3 to start the season last year before getting hurt and losing his job to Foles.

He was a great running QB but those days are long gone and the Jets are left with Vick the pocket QB and that just isn't very good.
 
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