Which Available HC will Excite this forum?
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Its also funny how people believe fans should have the same answers as those who are paid millions of dollars to know these things. Give me millions of dollars, sources, access to interviews, and years of personal interactions with coaches and i have little doubt i could find us a winner.
That said, you'll note that i personally had an answer 2 minutes after your thread started. Ken Whisenhunt has proven to be a superior coach. Multiple teams have gone after him the 2 times he's been "available"(known and not a head coach) for hire, this offseason is his 3rd year and he stood a damn fine chance of landing the Texans job. Unfortunately(for him), he did such a superior job of coaching the Chargers offense that they made the playoffs and he has to wait to start up new interviews.
Whisenhunt's assistants have had success or are highly regarded and some of them are surprisingly available due to odd circumstances(Ray Horton should be free from Cleveland soon, Russ Grimm stayed home this past season). Not only could we have a head coach who has proven he can elevate talent, we could grab a handful of his preferred staff.
No doubt your response to this will be the point out his overall record. Thats due to his last few seasons in Arizona, which had an ungodly mess at the quarterback position. Granted, he owns that record. But its doesnt accurately reflect his abilities as a coach. Given a competent quarterback and he will get the most out of that player. Kurt Warner, Rapist, Philip Rivers, all performed quite well under him. He simply couldnt make Derek Anderson, Matt Leinhart, Kevin Kolb, and John Skelton into stars. I cant blame him when it comes to those guys. And yes, he handpicked Kolb, but hes a coach not a scout. With Tannehill, he wouldnt have a repeat problem.
Whisenhunt had had success wherever he has gone. With Miami, he could be in the best position since his Pittsburgh days. With a quarterback with potential and a fierce pass rush, Whisenhunt could be holding a Lombardi trophy above his head. How do i know? Because he came damned close without a pass rush and an older quarterback a year away from retirement.
Now, if you dont mind, answer me this: after 2 subpar years, can you see Philbin winning a Superbowl? If so, explain why? If you cant see him raising that trophy, explain why should we bother keeping him employed?
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In all fairness to Jack Del Rio...
... Jack made the playoffs a few times in a brutal division with dog**** quarterbacks and defensive talent that wasn't exactly all world.
He's far from my first choice, but if they brought him in as the new coach tomorrow, I wouldn't jump off a bridge. Now, Eric Mangini... I'm jumping off the bridge.
... Jack made the playoffs a few times in a brutal division with dog**** quarterbacks and defensive talent that wasn't exactly all world.
He's far from my first choice, but if they brought him in as the new coach tomorrow, I wouldn't jump off a bridge. Now, Eric Mangini... I'm jumping off the bridge.
The OP asked who would excite me. A lot of NFL people would excite me over this staff, and I gave Del Rio as an example, far be it that he is the best choice. But then as is usual here, he goes on to argue with me about my choice of an example. This coaching staff, that Joe assembled, does not meet expectations. This team needs a HC who has pulling power to assemble excellent coaching staff. Seeing Joe and this coaching staff would certainly not excite me for the next season.
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And I'm sure you said the same thing when Sparano was on the hot seat....if I can remember correctly the forum was saying anybody would be better than Tony....Wisehunt will not sign here unless he didn't get the job at Detroit or the Vikings and not so sure he wouldn't wait another yr instead of taking this dead end job.....
Firing someone so the fans will feel better is not the right move, give the guy the tools to be successful with and then evaluate him over time not based on the last two games of the season, we are already at the point where good FA will not sign here unless they are coming off an injury or we over pay them.....when was the last time we had a chance to hire experience HC with a descent record?
If Gruden and Cowher will come back for money why would you want them? Both of those guys have been away from coaching too long and lost the fire.....they would be terrible choices...
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Evidence please.
Keep in mind Whisenhunt was interviewed and wanted to take the job in 2007. I could see Detroit, maybe(although due to personnel its unlikely they would be able to convert to his favored 3-4 defense), but Minnesota? Being stuck with no quarterback, a terrible GM, and no stadium until 2016? Yeah, going to need some proof for that claim.
There maybe more qualified coaches but will they coach for us? Both guys are qualified as HC, Sparano made the playoffs his first yr and Philbin is 1 game under 500 as he is rebuilding the team with his players to play his style, this takes time......
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Maybe 10 yrs ago but there is no proof of this now, especially when both said they are done coaching......
They had the #13 ranked offense with no QB, with the 8th pick of the draft he will have a young QB to work with along with AP at RB, he is the hottest coaching prospect left and the Viking will throw big money at him and give him time to fix the problems not to mention they made the playoffs in 2012.....
2007 Wisehunt would have accepted any HC job, now that he ran a successful organization and lead his team to a Super Bowl apperance he will take the best opportunity and not just any opportunity
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If it wasn't such a crappy choice maybe he wouldn't argue with you.
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I didnt see any evidence other then what other coaches have done in years past. Please throw up the link or whatever you have that shows Whisenhunt does not want to coach the Dolphins.
As for Minnesota, its a total rebuild. Sure, they have the 8th draft, but theres no guarantee that a quarterback will fall to that draft spot. Whisenhunt knows the value of having a talented quarterback, which is why he took the SD job even though he got snubbed for the head coaching position. He wanted to work with Rivers and redeem his reputation. He's succeeded. So why in gods name would he go to a place that is totally devoid at that position and theres no guarantee they can fill that void? Not to mention the other unattractive things they have going against them. Even when i listed them i forgot that Jared Allen has one foot out the door and Adrian Peterson was rumored to be mulling requesting a trade to a contender. Oh, and a discrimination scandal just erupted up there. Fun stuff.
We have the personnel to run a 3-4 defense, we have plenty of cap space, we have a young quarterback who reeks of potential, we have the vast majority of our draft picks, and if Philbin is fired that means Ireland is gone(thus giving Whisenhunt some input on who is hired). And your saying Whisenhunt will turn that down to go to a team that lacks the defense he prefers, is losing one of its best players, has no quarterback, is keeping its GM, and has no stadium. Again: im going to need some tangible proof for that claim.