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...Ricky Williams? I continue to be surprised at the number of fans on this site that can't wait for Ricky to come back to this team. Have any of you really thought this through? Some thoughts to ponder about this move:

1. One of our RB prospects will have to be cut to make room for him. This will be a player with great potential that we will lose to make room for a player that is on the downside of his career.

2. Many of you seem to think Ricky will come back as strong as he used to be...nothing could be further from the truth. He has already had his best season, he will not reach that level again. Expect Ricky (with a full season) to put up average YPC and total yards, and maybe even less.

3. Salary. Ricky will not come for the league minimum. He is going to make good money, so is Ronnie Brown. That is a lot of money for the RB position that could be better spent on some OL or secondary help. Plus, you will be paying him for a maximum of 12 games after his suspension. All I heard about during draft time was value, and how we should discard some of our best players (that aren't head cases and have never quit) so that we could get the best value. How is Ricky Williams a value at this point?

4. Team chemistry. I see many of you think that the team has forgiven him. Are you sure? Do you really believe Zach and JT are going to really say what they feel about the situation to the press? Saban is evaluating everyone, what he wants will not be openly second guessed or criticized by the players.

5. Many of you have said you will welcome him back if his "head is in the game" and he "really wants to win". What makes you think this is any more than a way out of an $8.6 million settlement?

6. Ricky can't be trusted. This is perhaps the biggest issue. Suppose Ronnie goes down, and Ricky starts carrying the load again. Maybe he gets too many carries in the game...will he be there the next week? Suppose he hits a club, and someone fires up a joint and offers him a toke...is he going to refuse? Suppose the Fins stun the NFL and make it to the playoffs...will Ricky dress for the game, or will he put on a dress and go clubbing?

I cannot conceive of any way that Ricky coming back is a good thing. This decision will come back to bite Saban in the end.
 
i think ricky will come back no really missin a beat. minor dosent have the size and speed the others do
 
Although I'm not a fan of Ricky's antics, it's looking more and more likely that he's coming back. So if Minor gets cut, I sure wouldn't shed a tear.
 
travis minor, eddie moore, sammy moris, seth mckinney, taylor whitley, or even reggie howard. I don't think any of these players are worth keeping around with their money.
 
legendary137 said:
travis minor, eddie moore, sammy moris, seth mckinney, taylor whitley, or even reggie howard. I don't think any of these players are worth keeping around with their money.
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Why the hell would you want to get rid of Sammy Morris???
 
i agree keep morris he was our best back last year plus he adds depth at full back now taylor whitley has got to go. he was on his back all the time last year
 
more likely than not its going to be Minor hitting the road if rickey does come back. and IMO thats not a bad thing atall
 
legendary137 said:
travis minor, eddie moore, sammy moris, seth mckinney, taylor whitley, or even reggie howard. I don't think any of these players are worth keeping around with their money.
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Why would we get rid of Howard? We're already hurting for depth.
 
volk said:
...Ricky Williams? I continue to be surprised at the number of fans on this site that can't wait for Ricky to come back to this team. Have any of you really thought this through? Some thoughts to ponder about this move:

1. One of our RB prospects will have to be cut to make room for him. This will be a player with great potential that we will lose to make room for a player that is on the downside of his career.

2. Many of you seem to think Ricky will come back as strong as he used to be...nothing could be further from the truth. He has already had his best season, he will not reach that level again. Expect Ricky (with a full season) to put up average YPC and total yards, and maybe even less.

3. Salary. Ricky will not come for the league minimum. He is going to make good money, so is Ronnie Brown. That is a lot of money for the RB position that could be better spent on some OL or secondary help. Plus, you will be paying him for a maximum of 12 games after his suspension. All I heard about during draft time was value, and how we should discard some of our best players (that aren't head cases and have never quit) so that we could get the best value. How is Ricky Williams a value at this point?

4. Team chemistry. I see many of you think that the team has forgiven him. Are you sure? Do you really believe Zach and JT are going to really say what they feel about the situation to the press? Saban is evaluating everyone, what he wants will not be openly second guessed or criticized by the players.

5. Many of you have said you will welcome him back if his "head is in the game" and he "really wants to win". What makes you think this is any more than a way out of an $8.6 million settlement?

6. Ricky can't be trusted. This is perhaps the biggest issue. Suppose Ronnie goes down, and Ricky starts carrying the load again. Maybe he gets too many carries in the game...will he be there the next week? Suppose he hits a club, and someone fires up a joint and offers him a toke...is he going to refuse? Suppose the Fins stun the NFL and make it to the playoffs...will Ricky dress for the game, or will he put on a dress and go clubbing?

I cannot conceive of any way that Ricky coming back is a good thing. This decision will come back to bite Saban in the end.
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While I agree with a lot of what you say, Ricky is in no position to demand amything salary wise, he should feel lucky that Wayne H will pay him the minimum salary in the league.

Minor most likely would go, and that's fine.

Team chemistry should really not be a problem because he is a loner anyway.

The funny thing is Rickys best friend on the team was Minor, and at one point he said Minor would be fine as the # 1 back. And now he could very well be cut because Ricky comes back!
 
Definitely would be Travis Minor, I really don't see any way he can make the team with Ricky returning. Some people said Lamar Gordon or Kay Jay Harris would be cut before Travis Minor because he's a special teams player, I find ridiculous. Out of all our RB's, no doubt in mind... Minor.
 
painnotpleasure said:
Definitely would be Travis Minor, I really don't see any way he can make the team with Ricky returning. Some people said Lamar Gordon or Kay Jay Harris would be cut before Travis Minor because he's a special teams player, I find ridiculous. Out of all our RB's, no doubt in mind... Minor.
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Minor is great on special teams and we need those guys. If Ricky makes the team, we won't cut Gordon he is still worth something and Harris will make the team on the practice squad. That leaves 1 yr. deal Minor on the outside looking in. And I know Gordon has 1 year left too but he is a better RB than Minor.
 
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