Who would you have taken?
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Identical to last year, I only did this at our original positions, ignoring the trades. I did it in real time, not caring where the player eventually ended up. This is what I came up with:
19: Johnny Manziel, with emphasis
50: Louis Nix. He went a full round later. I think that's a mistake by the league. Mostly I was shocked at the drop off once it reached this pick. I wasn't thrilled by anyone, compared to an avalanche of riches merely ten picks earlier. Some receivers were tempting but I wasn't convinced they were ultra special. I considered Christian Kirksey and Kareem Martin but gambled that at least one of them would be available a round later.
81: Kareem Martin. This one was very easy. I don't care that the defensive line is receiving priority over the offensive line. That's the way the board is falling. Talent rules. I'm sick to miss out on Kirksey, but not as depressed as missing all those guys who went early in round two, like Lee, Van Noy, Hageman, Matthews and Kouandjio
116: David Yankey. I decided the offensive line needed some work. This was a tough call above Cameron Fleming, Yankey's teammate. I'm going to default to the guy who is tougher and a superior run blocker, with confidence that his pass block ability will catch up. Yankey is also younger than Fleming and has been considered the superior player for the majority of their careers. I love Stanford players and am not going to be scared away by the Jonathan Martin example.
155: Jared Abbrederis. This was a big gamble because I didn't want to miss out on Ben Gardner, one of my top targets. A night earlier I thought I'd pick Gardner in the 5th but the more I thought about it, he was likely to make it to our number in the 6th. Turns out he went to Dallas in the late 7th. I also considered Caraun Reid at this spot but I already took Nix at defensive tackle. Same with Anthony Johnson, who we signed as a free agent. Abbrederis was one of the major college guys I considered quite underrated in a very deep group of wide receivers. I like the big school kids above guesswork on small college guys. Abbrederis went to Green Bay later in the fifth round
190: Ben Gardner and call it a day. I was ecstatic he dropped to this spot. I immediately switched to coverage of the Players Championship on NBC and didn't watch the remainder of the draft until hours later.
234: I wasn't watching the draft in real time but once the tape arrived at our original spot at 234 in the 7th round I would have selected Seantrel Henderson. He went to the Bills a few picks later. Blake Annen was the other consideration, a fast tight end from Cincinnati. Henderson was rated extremely high at a young age. I invariably default to that angle. I would have made Annen a priority free agent and upped the ante. He signed with the Eagles.
Overall I'm convinced I added more talent than Hickey did. Obviously it's an entirely different dynamic, with Manziel in the mix. The two offensive linemen may be drafted lower than James and Turner but over the bulk of their careers Henderson and Yankey were rated higher. Henderson is not ready to step in immediately, while James is. I understand that aspect. Once you have Manziel the offensive line isn't a dire emergency because he can actually avoid rushers.
19: Johnny Manziel, with emphasis
50: Louis Nix. He went a full round later. I think that's a mistake by the league. Mostly I was shocked at the drop off once it reached this pick. I wasn't thrilled by anyone, compared to an avalanche of riches merely ten picks earlier. Some receivers were tempting but I wasn't convinced they were ultra special. I considered Christian Kirksey and Kareem Martin but gambled that at least one of them would be available a round later.
81: Kareem Martin. This one was very easy. I don't care that the defensive line is receiving priority over the offensive line. That's the way the board is falling. Talent rules. I'm sick to miss out on Kirksey, but not as depressed as missing all those guys who went early in round two, like Lee, Van Noy, Hageman, Matthews and Kouandjio
116: David Yankey. I decided the offensive line needed some work. This was a tough call above Cameron Fleming, Yankey's teammate. I'm going to default to the guy who is tougher and a superior run blocker, with confidence that his pass block ability will catch up. Yankey is also younger than Fleming and has been considered the superior player for the majority of their careers. I love Stanford players and am not going to be scared away by the Jonathan Martin example.
155: Jared Abbrederis. This was a big gamble because I didn't want to miss out on Ben Gardner, one of my top targets. A night earlier I thought I'd pick Gardner in the 5th but the more I thought about it, he was likely to make it to our number in the 6th. Turns out he went to Dallas in the late 7th. I also considered Caraun Reid at this spot but I already took Nix at defensive tackle. Same with Anthony Johnson, who we signed as a free agent. Abbrederis was one of the major college guys I considered quite underrated in a very deep group of wide receivers. I like the big school kids above guesswork on small college guys. Abbrederis went to Green Bay later in the fifth round
190: Ben Gardner and call it a day. I was ecstatic he dropped to this spot. I immediately switched to coverage of the Players Championship on NBC and didn't watch the remainder of the draft until hours later.
234: I wasn't watching the draft in real time but once the tape arrived at our original spot at 234 in the 7th round I would have selected Seantrel Henderson. He went to the Bills a few picks later. Blake Annen was the other consideration, a fast tight end from Cincinnati. Henderson was rated extremely high at a young age. I invariably default to that angle. I would have made Annen a priority free agent and upped the ante. He signed with the Eagles.
Overall I'm convinced I added more talent than Hickey did. Obviously it's an entirely different dynamic, with Manziel in the mix. The two offensive linemen may be drafted lower than James and Turner but over the bulk of their careers Henderson and Yankey were rated higher. Henderson is not ready to step in immediately, while James is. I understand that aspect. Once you have Manziel the offensive line isn't a dire emergency because he can actually avoid rushers.
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I think I would have taken Manziel at 19 just to **** with Cleveland. You didn't want to give me fair value? Now I want extra value... bitch!!!
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Ok, in the case that he was gone I would have taken Bitonio, but i'm pretty certain he would be there at 27. Or maybe Su'a-Filo
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This is a pointless thread, why can't you people just accept the players we got and look forward to the upcoming season. The picks aren't gonna change, why play pretend and worry about what could have been. I don't understand you guys that do this, it gets old
1. OT Cyrus Kouandjio
2. TE Troy Niklas
3. OG Trai Turner
4. WR Martavis Bryant
5. DE James Gayle
6. LB Christian Jones
7. OT Matt Patchan
That's my best guess, as the board fell. James Gayle wasn't drafted but I would have been all over him in rd 5.
2. TE Troy Niklas
3. OG Trai Turner
4. WR Martavis Bryant
5. DE James Gayle
6. LB Christian Jones
7. OT Matt Patchan
That's my best guess, as the board fell. James Gayle wasn't drafted but I would have been all over him in rd 5.
Manziel no question.
here is why. What have we been desperately been missing the past 15 years or so? Excitment, marquee players a guy you would tune in to watch regardless of our record. I also firmly believe that Tannehill is a backup qb in this league. With all this being said, i take BPA and snatch Manziel. Even if the guy ends up being a bust, you just landed a potential superstar who at the very least will add a much needed jolt of excitement into this franchise
here is why. What have we been desperately been missing the past 15 years or so? Excitment, marquee players a guy you would tune in to watch regardless of our record. I also firmly believe that Tannehill is a backup qb in this league. With all this being said, i take BPA and snatch Manziel. Even if the guy ends up being a bust, you just landed a potential superstar who at the very least will add a much needed jolt of excitement into this franchise
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I did this exercise earlier so I could decide how I really felt about this draft, and this is what I came up with:
Trades
19 - trade to 26, pick up 3rd rounder - 71 overall
50 - trade to 57, pick up 4th rounder - 125 overall
Selections:
26 - OT James - backup pick - OT/G Bitonio
57 - OT/G Jack Mewhort - backup - WR Landry, OT/G Turner
71 - Borland, ILB - backup - OT/G Billy Turner
81 - G Gabe Jackson - backup - NT Nix, WR Moncrief
116 - WR Bryant - backup - RB Carey
125 - CB Aikens - backup S Vereen
155 - TE Lynch - backup S Sunseri
171 - RB Seastrunk - backup OLB Tripp
190 - DT McCullers - backup ILB Skov
234 - ILB Skov - backup OT Henderson
Trades
19 - trade to 26, pick up 3rd rounder - 71 overall
50 - trade to 57, pick up 4th rounder - 125 overall
Selections:
26 - OT James - backup pick - OT/G Bitonio
57 - OT/G Jack Mewhort - backup - WR Landry, OT/G Turner
71 - Borland, ILB - backup - OT/G Billy Turner
81 - G Gabe Jackson - backup - NT Nix, WR Moncrief
116 - WR Bryant - backup - RB Carey
125 - CB Aikens - backup S Vereen
155 - TE Lynch - backup S Sunseri
171 - RB Seastrunk - backup OLB Tripp
190 - DT McCullers - backup ILB Skov
234 - ILB Skov - backup OT Henderson
Manziel is a potential superstar because.....ESPN makes it look like he'll be?
no because he has that "it" factor. nobody knows if he will be tebow or a legit star but i wouldnt bet against a guy like that. We never take chances on guys like that and thats why we have been stuck in the same place for nearly two decades
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When I was 29 I married the wrong women. That was 34 years ago and there is nothing I can do about it now so over time I've learned to stop obsessing and thinking "what if" many years ago. I managed to do the same with the NFL draft a couple of years ago. I know think about the stupidest thing on the NFL network is the "what if" stories.
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If we never do our own 're-draft' or 'what if's' etc, is there any reason to have forums or fan opinion. One of the major things if loving sports is the topics brought up between games. I myself love the banta, what ifs and fan interaction. Part of shay makes it more a day to day thing rather than a week to week enjoyment