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Why can't Feeley be like Rothlesberger of 04?

Calgaryfin said:
If AJ can put it together the offense around him could be one of the most explosive in the NFL. Give Scott and Nick till after the bye week and we should be hitting on all cylinders.
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I could easily be proven wrong, but I do believe if given enough time in the pocket AJ could have great success with the skill players he has around him.
 
Feeley's problem is mental not physical. He has the arm, just needs to put the ball in the right place.
 
SkapePhin said:
Or even Frerotte for that matter..

IMO, the success of our QB will be directly predicated by the state of the OL.. If it is decent, I dont see why Feeley couldnt do the caretaker role that worked well for inexperience Big Ben in Pitt.. I saw an interview with Big Ben earlier on ESPN, and he even said his role was to "steer the ship", which meant for the most part feeding the machine that was the Steeler running game.. Why can't Feeley do that? Feed the two headed running machine that is R & R!

Feeley did a decent job as caretaker in a good system in Philly for 5 games.. If they can emphasize him not making costly decisions, I think he is good enough to hand the ball off, and hit one of our receivers deep on occasion..
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JMHO, but Feeley couldn't carry Big Ben's jocky strap.
 
Big Ben = very talented + brain + cast + coaching + good system + overachiever

AJ = moderate talent (usually leads to moderate results) + no brain + mediocore cast last year + bad coaching last year + bad system last year + underachiever.

And that is why the 2 are nothing alike and their results were nothing alike.

Now you wanna tell me Gus can at least manage the game and do some of the things better than AJ; then you might be onto something imo.
 
Megatron said:
Ben was a rookie, and a very talented rookie at that. These guys are journeymen and not very talented journeymen at that.
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that and its not like anyone really said ben was going to be bad, feely has many many doubters, ben was anticipated to be at least decent, he was a first roudn draft pick
 
I'm not saying Feeley can't be better, but why do we have to say he can be as good as???

The fact is that he has not been as good as anybody! He has stunck!!!

He will have his chance starting today, it's all in his hands!
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
I'm not saying Feeley can't be better, but why do we have to say he can be as good as???

The fact is that he has not been as good as anybody! He has stunck!!!

He will have his chance starting today, it's all in his hands!
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I never once said "be as good as Rothlesberger".. My post is about playing the SAME ROLE that Ben had last year, which was caretaker.. I think both Gus and AJ are capable of this, given the optimum supporting cast, as both have displayed this! AJ in Philly, Gus in Minny..

Seriously, if the OL can do an good job, this offense should be set to be fairly productive, regardless of the QB at the helm..
 
SkapePhin said:
I never once said "be as good as Rothlesberger".. My post is about playing the SAME ROLE that Ben had last year, which was caretaker.. I think both Gus and AJ are capable of this, given the optimum supporting cast, as both have displayed this! AJ in Philly, Gus in Minny..

Seriously, if the OL can do an good job, this offense should be set to be fairly productive, regardless of the QB at the helm..
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I really don't think Feeley has the head to be a good QB, can he be better, yes, he can't get worse! I hope he pans out, I just have a very hard time seeing this happening.

If he puts it together, I'm all for it! I just have serious doubts about him.
 
The difference is that Ben didn't put up huge stats but didn't make many mistakes. Feeley hasn't shown he can't go a game without some major mistakes.

I think with a better OL and the talent we have at QB Feeley will be a good enough QB to be a starter. Bottom of the league in stats but solid enough to win us games and let the team play well enough around him that he can play mistake free and win games. Feeley won't ever be much of a QB IMO but he could play a Dilfer role (when BAL won the SuperBowl) on our team if we can get the rest of the team hittin on all cylanders
 
PhiNomina said:
The difference is that Ben didn't put up huge stats but didn't make many mistakes. Feeley hasn't shown he can't go a game without some major mistakes.

I think with a better OL and the talent we have at QB Feeley will be a good enough QB to be a starter. Bottom of the league in stats but solid enough to win us games and let the team play well enough around him that he can play mistake free and win games. Feeley won't ever be much of a QB IMO but he could play a Dilfer role (when BAL won the SuperBowl) on our team if we can get the rest of the team hittin on all cylanders
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Do you honestly believe that Ben would not of made mistakes if he was the Dolphin's QB last year? I am not saying that I wouldn't rather have Ben instead of AJ. I am just saying, sheesh don't say things that are not true.

When Ben was put in a position where the running game didn't dominate and the ball had to go into his hands in a very high pressure situation, he flat out failed.
 
So far, Feeley's problems have been bad decisions under pressure, and failure to look off his receiver, both of which result in INTs. Obviously reducing the pressure should reduce the bad decisions. Failure to look off his receiver, though could be a bad sign. Its certainly something that can be coached, but Feeley has been in the league for a few years now, and while he hasnt seen much game time he has seen a LOT of practice. If he had decent QB coaches, this problem should have been fixed by now. Of course, with a little less pressure Feeley may have the time to think about what the coaches told him, but still, he will probably never be "instinctive" with it.
Thats my 2 cents worth anyway.
 
Dol-Fan Dupree said:
Do you honestly believe that Ben would not of made mistakes if he was the Dolphin's QB last year? I am not saying that I wouldn't rather have Ben instead of AJ. I am just saying, sheesh don't say things that are not true.

When Ben was put in a position where the running game didn't dominate and the ball had to go into his hands in a very high pressure situation, he flat out failed.
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I never said Ben didn't make any or that he wouldn't, don't put words in my mouth. I actually think Ben made some GREAT plays in the passing game even when the running game wasn't working. AND more importantly, I don't think he made THAT many mistakes when the running game wasn't working.

Feeley didn't have a great system, but at the end of the year the OL played much better, the running game played MUCH better, he had time, he had Chris and Randy and he STILL made quite a few mistakes.
 
PhiNomina said:
I never said Ben didn't make any or that he wouldn't, don't put words in my mouth. I actually think Ben made some GREAT plays in the passing game even when the running game wasn't working. AND more importantly, I don't think he made THAT many mistakes when the running game wasn't working.

Feeley didn't have a great system, but at the end of the year the OL played much better, the running game played MUCH better, he had time, he had Chris and Randy and he STILL made quite a few mistakes.
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MUCH better is under 50 yards per game to 80 yards per game. And having time meant that he had 1.6 seconds to throw instead of 0.8. Ben would of failed as any rookie qb would of failed in that situation. Including Peyton Manning.

Ben made enough mistakes to lose the game to the Jets. Luckily the kicker bailed him out twice.
 
Rules to being a good QB:
1) Have no supporting cast
2) Have no offensive line (because then its because of the O-line, not the QB)
3) No running game
4) No defense.

This is the only way QB's will get any credit on these boards.
 
PhiNomina said:
I never said Ben didn't make any or that he wouldn't, don't put words in my mouth. I actually think Ben made some GREAT plays in the passing game even when the running game wasn't working. AND more importantly, I don't think he made THAT many mistakes when the running game wasn't working.

Feeley didn't have a great system, but at the end of the year the OL played much better, the running game played MUCH better, he had time, he had Chris and Randy and he STILL made quite a few mistakes.
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The OL played SOMEWHAT better. He was still getting beaten and battered every game. I'm suprised he wasn't on the DL.
 
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