Why did Ross hire Joe Philbin?

[HoneyB]

"Communicating the whys and hows of the Packers offense to young players each year cannot be overstated. One of the major reasons Philbin was promoted to a head coaching job in the NFL was his ability to easily communicate complex ideas while maintaining a calm, likeable demeanor among players and colleagues."

I think that's probably a pretty accurate description of Philbin: Calm, likeable demeanor. But that describes your average Social Studies teacher, too. And honestly, I think Phibin would be a great high school teacher. I see him doing that. What I don't see him excelling at is coaching men in the NFL and creating an offense that will crush the opposition. I haven't seen that yet.

 

[Nublar7]

There were at least 5 head coaches fired in 2012. None of the teams in need of a head coach with the exception of Miami were remotely interested in Philbin. If the dolphins do not advance at least to the play-offs, he will be fired and will be just another footnote in Miami's mediocrity.

The Chiefs, Buccaneers and Raiders were also interested in Philbin and he had talks/interviews with them.

Philbin actually got off a plane to Oakland to accept the Dolphins job.

 

[jacquesstrap]

Philbin reminds me of a battalion commander I had when I was stationed at Bamberg, Germany. This colonel wanted all the windshield wipers of our vehicles angled at exactly 30 degrees and all bumpers neatly aligned when he viewed the motorpool. It didn't matter that the vehicles didn't run or were missing a tire or a motor, it was more important that the windshield wipers were at a certain angle and that the vehicles were parked in a straight line. Philbin appears to be the same, focusing on the mundane and not on the crucial items.

 

[HoneyB]

This was also a topic of conversation during the SEA game. When SEA had like 5 sacks in the first half. The announcers and even on a GB fan site, it was noted the adjustments to run double TE's from the start would have been in the weekly game plan. The loss of Philbin early was felt. But like any good organization GB rebounded and took off.

I see your point, but as I said, they had a great season! As far as the sacks, they lost their starting center, and Jennings was injured, and they were dealing with all this reshuffling of coaches. I don't know if you can call it a rebound. They lost one game, won the other, and panic was setting in from the sportswriters, already at that stage of the game?

 

[Vaark]

Philbin didn't call plays at GB, he did not develope Aaron Rodger, he did not create the offensive line. He appeared to handle a lot of admin type tasks but no actual coaching.

To the contrary, there are glowing Aaron Rodgers' quotes attributing much of his professional and personal development to Joe. Beyond that, whose designed plays, practiced all week by whose offensive unit do you think McCarthy was calling on the sidelines on Sundays? Please don't let a vacuumed-vision agenda get in the way of reality.

 

[jacquesstrap]

Where was this vaulted offensive play design at Miami? If Philbin was hired for the purpose of bringing a similar GB's offense here, than he failed spectacularly at that job. Miami was 26th in offense, actually scoring less than when Sparano was here.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

I see your point, but as I said, they had a great season! As far as the sacks, they lost their starting center, and Jennings was injured, and they were dealing with all this reshuffling of coaches. I don't know if you can call it a rebound. They lost one game, won the other, and panic was setting in from the sportswriters, already at that stage of the game?

In that SEA game it was scheme problem. The edge was exposed and the ends were having their way with GBs LT. Only after half time did the adjustment of using 2 TE sets become apart of the game plan. Something, that would have been in the game plan before the game.

I won't change your guys opinion of Coach Philbin. But I will stand by the words of the people in GB who won a SB with his help. He wasn't the first pick for many here, and it clouds the bias shown towards him by you guys. And thats fine. But not really based in anything real.

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Philbin reminds me of a battalion commander I had when I was stationed at Bamberg, Germany. This colonel wanted all the windshield wipers of our vehicles angled at exactly 30 degrees and all bumpers neatly aligned when he viewed the motorpool. It didn't matter that the vehicles didn't run or were missing a tire or a motor, it was more important that the windshield wipers were at a certain angle and that the vehicles were parked in a straight line. Philbin appears to be the same, focusing on the mundane and not on the crucial items.

Keep going, because your making yourself look like a tool. Your original argument was blown out of the water, now you go by appearances. :crazy:

 

[jacquesstrap]

This is a results orientated business. Joe Philbin's record is 15 and 17. He is below average and I doubt that other coaches get in a dither about him. Will he come up with some new offensive wiggle? Some wild formation never seen? Hell he couldn't or wouldn't even put Wallace in motion. Screens using his running backs, what a concept? Changing the cadence from Go to GO GO, no... I am not impressed with Joe Philbin at all, and I doubt that other NFL coaches are too concerned with Philbin being overly creative or cunning.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

There were at least 5 head coaches fired in 2012. None of the teams in need of a head coach with the exception of Miami were remotely interested in Philbin. If the dolphins do not advance at least to the play-offs, he will be fired and will be just another footnote in Miami's mediocrity.

Should your ignorance on the topic be exposed again? Nevermind, Nublar did a fine job of showing the utter incompetence you rail against.

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I think that's probably a pretty accurate description of Philbin: Calm, likeable demeanor. But that describes your average Social Studies teacher, too. And honestly, I think Phibin would be a great high school teacher. I see him doing that. What I don't see him excelling at is coaching men in the NFL and creating an offense that will crush the opposition. I haven't seen that yet.

Contrary to quotes from GB? Aaron Rodgers? I have shown the quotes, and yet you in all your wisdom know more than the people he coached and worked with. I guess you my friend should goto GB and let them know you are over qualified to lead, install and plan their weekly game plan.

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This is a results orientated business. Joe Philbin's record is 15 and 17. He is below average and I doubt that other coaches get in a dither about him. Will he come up with some new offensive wiggle? Some wild formation never seen? Hell he couldn't or wouldn't even put Wallace in motion. Screens using his running backs, what a concept? Changing the cadence from Go to GO GO, no... I am not impressed with Joe Philbin at all, and I doubt that other NFL coaches are too concerned with Philbin being overly creative or cunning.

Well this here is your opinion as opposed to the bird **** you were trying to sell earlier. Glad to see you are moving on to something else.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

I think that's probably a pretty accurate description of Philbin: Calm, likeable demeanor. But that describes your average Social Studies teacher, too. And honestly, I think Phibin would be a great high school teacher. I see him doing that. What I don't see him excelling at is coaching men in the NFL and creating an offense that will crush the opposition. I haven't seen that yet.

Aaron Rodgers disagrees:
“Joe has an incredible command of a room, he really cares about relationships and people. He’s a great teacher, a great leader.”


Huh?

 

[jacquesstrap]

Oh and the colonel I spoke of? He was relieved of his command during Desert Storm.

 

[slk018]

Lots of sarcasm here.. But, to be. Real... Who knows maybe bc nobody else wanted the job. So we settles for the average guy who picks up gun wrappers and reads off note cards.. Honestly, I think philbin is an average coach. But, some emotion and someone who demands respect wouldn't hurt.. I think you am should look at what Charlie strong sent his team at Texas... That is what a guy who commands respect does

 

[jacquesstrap]

Philbin appeared to be the consolation prize after Ross failed to get Fisher.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

Lots of sarcasm here.. But, to be. Real... Who knows maybe bc nobody else wanted the job. So we settles for the average guy who picks up gun wrappers and reads off note cards.. Honestly, I think philbin is an average coach. But, some emotion and someone who demands respect wouldn't hurt.. I think you am should look at what Charlie strong sent his team at Texas... That is what a guy who commands respect does

Texas? Seriously? Come on, Man.

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Philbin appeared to be the consolation prize after Ross failed to get Fisher.

Now your coming off as a troll. Have fun with that.:

 

[Vaark]

Philbin appeared to be the consolation prize after Ross failed to get Fisher.

And thank heavens for that! We'd have had a HC who was finally fired after putting up 6 winning seasons out of 16.5, who was so clueless that he hired Greg Williams despite all the buzz and little Schottenheimer - who on the basis of those scary impressive credentials demanded complete oversight and as a result ended up with GM Les Snead as his glorified go-fer. Philbin might be 15-17 while still on a steep HC learning curve but Fisher is 15-17-1 with the Rams, after a 16 season learning curve and now with 6 winning seasons out of 18 and 6 games. I'd say we ended up just fine, relatively speaking on comparison to Coach Mediocre!!