Why does AJ feeley Deserve another chance at starting? He failed last season

[lauderdale]

He made a lot of horrible mistakes last season that made me vomit. I don't want to see another season of him throwing interceptions for touchdowns. He actually helped our opponents more than he helped our team.

Hell, look at Jay Fiedler. Didn't we give him plenty of chances already?

Ferrotte is not the answer as he is old and doesn’t solve the problem long term. He knows the offense and isn’t blowing Feeley out of the water so why should he start for one season and then the Phins are back to square one next season?

Sage is not the answer as he does not have all the tools to be a starter.

We all should know by now that the Phins don’t need to trade any picks away for another backup QB.

Feeley is learning a new offense and shouldn’t be expected to light it up in preseason. He should get the starting nod this season so he can show whether or not he can nut up and get it done or the Dolphins need to draft a new QB next year. It’s not that hard to understand.

 

[Alxphins]

Please do not compare Kerry Collins' situation with that of Feeley's. :shakeno: Kerry Collins had an actual offensive coordinator that could make his QB's life easier and put them in a position to succeed. Kerry was not under constant pressure from the opposing D because of his sieve like line. While I understand that Oakland did not run the ball well last year, they only allowed 25 sacks on Collins in 14 games. Compare that with 23 sacks surrendered by Miami when Feeley was the starter, which was for 11 games and parts of another. And those do not indicate how many times he was under intense pressure and threw it away. And let's not forget that Feeley had to play against stiffer competition while Collins played in the mostly defenseless AFC west. Feeley has still not been able to be brought under the tutelage of a good OC in Miami, until now, so he needs to be given the chance. And remember, he was never regarded as a great practice player.....so you see his best when the lights come on. Give him some time in the good situation he has now and if he fails, we can always turn back to Gus, who is less of a question mark in that we know what he can and cannot do.

Sacks are not only a product of the line but of how long a QB holds on to the ball. Feeley never made good decisions he either took the sack or threw a pick. I always hear these excuses for Feeley not enought game time (started 18 games in this league and has been in the league for 4 years) or not a good practice player...I mean the heck does that mean?!!!???? Maybe his practice habits, which are obviously poor, translate into the poor performances he has in games. He has an opportunity to lead the Dolphins as their starting QB and he doesn't practice well? Why does he get a pass on being a poor practice player? That is a ridiculous statement. If he does not practice well then he should not play...why should he be given a chance? In other words if he can't perform in practice what has he done in this league to demonstrate that he is entitlted to start? (other than have a passer rating of 61 for 2004).


I again go back to the point that he has never put together one outstanding game in the 18 he has started. He has had decent games where he manages it well, but NEVER NEVER has he dominated and demonstrated anything extrordinary, either in Philly or here. Even Feidler had his moments.

 

[CalDolFan10x14]

why are people still talking about Fiedler.. hes gone.. Im happy, we're happy.. hes happy.... lets move on.

:yeahthat:

 

[Alxphins]

First of all, it was a 5-1 record, the "TEAM" (AJ included) did what they had to do to achieve tha trecoed. I'd be very happy if we could that this year, especailly with the defense we have.

Second, you talk about experience. To prove your point, you talk about number of years in the NFL experience instead of actual game experience, big difference. As I said before, the more experience he gets the better he will be. It's like riding a bike, everyone starts off with training wheels. Eventually, with more experience, the training wheels come off. Does that mean you won't fall down? No. He's going to make mistakes, everyone does, but with more experience, those mistakes should not happen as often.

Finally, the people around him, IMO, feel more confident in Gus, right now, because he knows the system better than AJ at this point. That would happen at any job. I deploy to a ship in a few days and I know they will hook me up with someone who has been on the ship for awhile and knows how things run, instead of putting me with someone just learning as I will be.

As for your reference to wins...check Feilder's record. He had a pretty good record (mainly because of the defense) but didn't have the ability to win at the playoff level because the TEAM as a whole was not that good because Feilder was a liability at QB because when teams took away the run and made him beat them he could not. Therefore, Feeley is not as good as Feidler using your rationale because Feidler has more wins and a better winning percentage.

As for experience, I suppose the best way to put it is this...Feeley has to EARN the startting job and he has not. He is a poor practice player (according to everyone) and if so he should not be handed the starting job to see what he can do. He needs to perform in practice, beat out the other QB's and become the starter. Putting him in to give him experience and see how he does is not fair to the other players who outperform him in practice.

 

[PerfectSZN]

I again go back to the point that he has never put together one outstanding game in the 18 he has started. He has had decent games where he manages it well, but NEVER NEVER has he dominated and demonstrated anything extrordinary, either in Philly or here. Even Feidler had his moments.

Just curious, but wasn't the NE game a "moment"

 

[bdmagnum]

I again go back to the point that he has never put together one outstanding game in the 18 he has started. He has had decent games where he manages it well, but NEVER NEVER has he dominated and demonstrated anything extrordinary, either in Philly or here. Even Feidler had his moments.

What QB has had an outstanding game with 18 starts, with no supporting cast?

He had a supporting cast in Philly and went 5-1, but you're not happy because it was nothing to write home about.

 

[MDFINFAN]

This is one of the most ridiculous threats in terms of content, I've read..we don't know what we have until we have a OL.,,,period.

 

[LarryFinFan]

He made a lot of horrible mistakes last season that made me vomit. I don't want to see another season of him throwing interceptions for touchdowns. He actually helped our opponents more than he helped our team.

Hell, look at Jay Fiedler. Didn't we give him plenty of chances already?

He deserves another opportunity because Wanny didn't give him a chance to be successful at all last year. He surrounded him with a **** offensive line and not enough snaps in the preseason and then Bates had to throw him to the wolves when the OL was operating at it's worst. I don't think he our answer, but I am sure that Gus is not either...what we don't know about Feeley is the X factor...we know about Gus...he's a loser...

 

[Canadianfishfan]

He deserves another opportunity because Wanny didn't give him a chance to be successful at all last year. He surrounded him with a **** offensive line and not enough snaps in the preseason and then Bates had to throw him to the wolves when the OL was operating at it's worst. I don't think he our answer, but I am sure that Gus is not either...what we don't know about Feeley is the X factor...we know about Gus...he's a loser...

hes getting the opportunity. He played the last game from the 2nd quarter all the way till the 4th quarter.. Thats a good damn chance...

Listen.. it doesnt matter if you want him to start. To this coaching staff... they'll decide who gets what. Last year (as it's been said over and over by this administration) It doesn't matter what happened here last year.

Its all about the here and now. Cmon people. We're not going to bring another guy as far as I see. Whoever wins the job will have the confidence of the staff and players.

 

[JAcK o D1AmonDs]

cus feeley has more upside than Gus.
yall invested a very high draft pick to get him here.
he didnt play all season.
he didnt have a run game last season.
he didnt have an O-Line last season.

the bills fan has a great point he does have more upside better arm just field vision needs to improve, and from what i see great release

 

[Canadianfishfan]

the bills fan has a great point he does have more upside better arm just field vision needs to improve, and from what i see great release

But no downfield vision and no pocket presence.

 

[KPDolfan424]

He made a lot of horrible mistakes last season that made me vomit. I don't want to see another season of him throwing interceptions for touchdowns. He actually helped our opponents more than he helped our team.

Hell, look at Jay Fiedler. Didn't we give him plenty of chances already?

Hey I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticken my head up a bulls a$$ but Id rather take a butchers word for it.

Translation-

I can get a good look at AJ and GUS by watchin preseason and have an opinion whos better but Id rather take the coaches word for it.

 

[ch19079]

the bills fan has a great point he does have more upside better arm just field vision needs to improve, and from what i see great release

hey now... dont start that whole, "i agree with you", stuff.
ive been getting a lot of that lately, and i dont like it.

how can i argue with people who agree with me?

 

[PhinBeck]

I dont' want to keep giving the same qb a chance after having Jay nosed Fiedler.

So Jay gets 4 years, 3 with decent support and AJ should get 7 with none? I agree Aj shouldnt get 3 more years to develop, but asking him to develop in 7 games with no o-line, no offensive identity as well as no creativity and no o-line is ridiculous. He shouldnt be handed teh job either, he needs to earn it, but to use last year as the end all for his evaluation is unfair.

 

[Alxphins]

What QB has had an outstanding game with 18 starts, with no supporting cast?

He had a supporting cast in Philly and went 5-1, but you're not happy because it was nothing to write home about.

You keep referring to the 5-1 in Philly but it was because of the defense not because of him. It is the equivalent of Feidler having a very good winning record as a starter here...do you think we won those games because of him? No he just happened to be the QB on a team with a good defense and good supporting cast.

Bottom line if Feeley was so good why has he not won the strating job hands down? I know I know he is a poor practice player or he does not know the offense, or whatever...point is he has not and come talk to me when he has....I would love to see Feeley excel because that would mean the Dolphins would be doing well but he has simply failed to do so

Lastly a quick look demonstrated that Patrick Ramsey (with a poor supporting cast -- pre-clinton portis) 23/35 (65.7 pct.) 213 yds 3tds had a pretty good start in his 11th game. I am sure there are others. Feeley has never had a game to rival that. The only game he has ever thrown 3 tds he threw 5 ints. The guy is a pro he need to perform or sit the bench.