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Ok, so i picked 10 teams to compare depth charts (only off and def) from last year to see how many of them had most FA, traded players, drafted and udfa who where picked up by their teams between their 2011 STARTERS.

The thing is that most current prolific franchises do build by draft and here are the numbers i got:

PITTSBURGH STEELERS = ONLY 1 player who was not drafted by them or picked up as undrafted FA.

Between their starters, 8 of them were drafted in the first round.
2 second rounders
2 third rounders
3 fourth rounders
3 who were picked up in 6th or 7th round
3 Undrafted Free Agents
(You get the idea why Pittsburgh Steelers fans are in love with their FO now?)


GREEN BAY PACKERS = 4 players who came by FA or trade.

Between their starters, 5 of them were drafted in the first round.
4 second rounders
2 third rounders
2 fourth rounders
4 who were picked up in 6th or 7th round
1 Undrafted Free Agent


NEW YORK GIANTS = 5 players who came by FA or trade.

Between their starters, 6 of them were drafted in the first round. (counting Eli)
. 4 second rounders
1 third rounder
1 fifth rounder
2 who were picked up in 6th or 7th round
3 Undrafted Free Agents


NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS = 6 players who came by FA or trade.

Between their starters, 5 of them were drafted in the first round.
6 second rounders
1 fourth rounder
1 who was picked up in 6th or 7th round
3 Undrafted Free Agents


NEW ORLEANS SAINTS = 7 players who came by FA or trade.

Between their starters, 4 of them were drafted in the first round.
. 3 second rounders
1 third rounder
2 fourth rounders
1 fifth rounder
2 who were picked up in 6th or 7th round
2 Undrafted Free Agents

And now the teams that have been struggling to become prolific:

DALLAS COWBOYS = 5 who didn't come from draft or as udfa
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES = 8 who didn't come from draft or as udfa


MIAMI DOLPHINS = 9 who didn't come from draft or as udfa

Between their starters, 4 of them were drafted in the first round.
2 second rounders
1 third rounder
2 fourth rounders
1 fifth rounder
2 who was picked up in 6th or 7th round
1 Undrafted Free Agents (CFL Player actually obvious who he is)

CLEVELAND BROWNS = 9 who didn't come from draft or as udfa
WASHINGTON REDSKINS = 13 who didn't come from draft or as udfa

As you can see there's a pattern imo, where teams who build by the draft tend to have better results in their future starting positions, and i think it's the way Philbin intends to start doing things around here.
That leads me to be a bit more confident in the way Miami is doing things right now, where as we all know from the media, our plan is to go get players from this draft who can produce in our future, instead of trying hard in getting them via free agency.

Maybe someone else can try looking for other teams apart from this 10, but i don't think the conclusion will be any different.

To sum up, i think building through the draft is the way to go and Philbin is leading us in the right path. Between Ireland and him, they will figure things out and we may have to wait and see what happens in this draft and how it translates into the field.
Ireland is a good talent scout from what i've seen him draft, something that has been debated here many many times and is not the intention of this post to discuss that!!, but to discuss about FA not being as important as the draft, unless you pick someone like Drew Brees in FA!

Thoughts???

Sources: nfl.com/teams, pro-football-reference.com/teams, wikipedia.org, sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams
 
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Dont think anyone doubts that you build winners through the draft. What people doubt is if Ireland(whos record suggests his skill level is a solid "incompetent") and coach who has never had personnel say in his life have the ability to build through the draft.
 
I would like to see one post, just one, that stated it wasn't important to build through the draft. That doesn't mean you completely disregard free agency. You utilize both to your advantage. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
 
What this post shows more than anything is the importance of a franchise qb. The Steelers, Packers, Giants, Patriots, and Saints all have established, franchise quarterbacks while the cowboys (romo is debatable), eagles (vick is not who he used to be), dolphins, and browns do not.
 
phinpunk14 said:
What this post shows more than anything is the importance of a franchise qb. The Steelers, Packers, Giants, Patriots, and Saints all have established, franchise quarterbacks while the cowboys (romo is debatable), eagles (vick is not who he used to be), dolphins, and browns do not.
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Yes, but from the established franchises, only NO didn't draft their own QB.
 
I agree with this, but a lot of people including me have doubts that we have the management to build through the draft correctly. A lot of these teams have always had good management with great people in charge.
 
Gonzo said:
I would like to see one post, just one, that stated it wasn't important to build through the draft. That doesn't mean you completely disregard free agency. You utilize both to your advantage. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
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Throughout this FA, there has been nothing but hysteria about it, about us not doing the right moves for example. My point is that even though we still haven't upgraded our team, it's not so dramatic, because teams that have been in the top the past years, have gotten their players through the draft. In addition, we now have Philbin who i think will be a factor as well in this years draft.
 
Gonzo said:
I would like to see one post, just one, that stated it wasn't important to build through the draft. That doesn't mean you completely disregard free agency. You utilize both to your advantage. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
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Using every opportunity to improve your team? Perish the thought. Time to go back to smart football by lowballing and alienating free agents.
 
Gonzo said:
I would like to see one post, just one, that stated it wasn't important to build through the draft. That doesn't mean you completely disregard free agency. You utilize both to your advantage. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.
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The lucky teams find good players willing to play for a ring instead of a contract.

But you have to be a good team in order to NOT overpay quality free agents.

Before guys are willing to come to Miami for a discount, we are going to need a QB.
 
Uruguayfinfan¬¬ said:
Throughout this FA, there has been nothing but hysteria about it, about us not doing the right moves for example. My point is that even though we still haven't upgraded our team, it's not so dramatic, because teams that have been in the top the past years, have gotten their players through the draft. In addition, we now have Philbin who i think will be a factor as well in this years draft.
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When you have the number of needs we do and at the same time tout a win now mentality, as the FO has been doing, you use every possible way of obtaining players that will help your team. Last year, Ireland made one of his two smart moves in his time here (IMO), he brought in Bush. The other was also a FA move in bringing in Wake. FA can be utilized properly. Instead, we're heading into the draft with more needs than we had at the end of last year. That's rebuilding mode.
 
Spesh said:
Using every opportunity to improve your team? Perish the thought. Time to go back to smart football by lowballing and alienating free agents.
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If we had paid and landed any of these free agents, I guarantee many of the same people defending Ireland would be touting the signings.
 
DzakkH13 said:
The lucky teams find good players willing to play for a ring instead of a contract.

But you have to be a good team in order to NOT overpay quality free agents.

Before guys are willing to come to Miami for a discount, we are going to need a QB.
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And a new FO, IMO.
 
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